Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 3rd Oct 2009 19:07 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless So, you thought this whole tug of war over iTunes synchronisation was over, right? The USB Implementers Forum slapped Palm in the face, and exonerated Apple from any wrongdoing. The thing is though, the USB-IF is pretty much a powerless organisation, so Palm tossed them aside, and fixed webOS iTunes sync in webOS 1.2.1.
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RE[7]: Here we go again...
by FurryOne on Mon 5th Oct 2009 20:44 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Here we go again..."
FurryOne
Member since:
2006-01-23

...is it ethical for any company whatsoever to try to lock end-users to their software and hardware?

There is nothing "unethical" about locking hardware to software when one Company creates both as a compliment to each other. It happens all the time in the electronics business - not just in computers. Companies make major investments in R&D, and in many cases if you change software or hardware you will void the warranty.

Apple would be well within their rights to not publish a way for other
hardware to access iTunes information, but instead they allow other Companies that FOLLOW THEIR GUIDELINES to access what's needed to make use of iTunes libraries. Apple invested the R&D, Apple wrote the iTunes software, so Apple makes the rules as to how their software should be accessed. There's nothing unethical about that.

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RE[8]: Here we go again...
by WereCatf on Tue 6th Oct 2009 14:48 in reply to "RE[7]: Here we go again..."
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

It happens all the time in the electronics business - not just in computers.

Just because something happens all the time doesn't make it all right, you know? Even murders happen all the time, there dies atleast one person every minute in a violent death, and it's still not okay.


Apple would be well within their rights to not publish a way for other hardware to access iTunes information, but instead they allow other Companies that FOLLOW THEIR GUIDELINES to access what's needed to make use of iTunes libraries. Apple invested the R&D, Apple wrote the iTunes software, so Apple makes the rules as to how their software should be accessed. There's nothing unethical about that.

And Microsoft would be well within their rights to ban any competitors from using their APIs and distributing their competing software for Windows, it's after all Microsoft software, they wrote it, they invested in the R&D.. right?

That's a very simplistic and naive way of looking at things. First of all, something being within someone's rights doesn't mean it's ethical, for example me going outside and being rude to everyone I come across is well within my rights. It's just also unethical.

Secondly, iTunes is a free (as in beer) application designed to manage music and video. That's a VERY common usecase, it's not in any way specialized and rare software. As such it's just silly if users are required to install even more applications on their computers to do what iTunes already does just in order to get the music to their portable players. From consumer point of view it's just extra hassle, and it would all be better if they could use one single application to handle their music files.

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RE[9]: Here we go again...
by FurryOne on Tue 6th Oct 2009 15:44 in reply to "RE[8]: Here we go again..."
FurryOne Member since:
2006-01-23

It happens all the time in the electronics business - not just in computers.

Just because something happens all the time doesn't make it all right, you know? Even murders happen all the time, there dies atleast one person every minute in a violent death, and it's still not okay.


You can come back to planet earth any time now...


And Microsoft would be well within their rights to ban any competitors from using their APIs and distributing their competing software for Windows, it's after all Microsoft software, they wrote it, they invested in the R&D.. right?


Unfortunately for Microsoft, they have been officially labeled a Monopoly - the rules are different for them then for Apple.

First of all, something being within someone's rights doesn't mean it's ethical, for example me going outside and being rude to everyone I come across is well within my rights. It's just also unethical.


You obviously don't live in New York City.

Secondly, iTunes is a free (as in beer) application designed to manage music and video. That's a VERY common usecase, it's not in any way specialized and rare software. As such it's just silly if users are required to install even more applications on their computers to do what iTunes already does just in order to get the music to their portable players. From consumer point of view it's just extra hassle, and it would all be better if they could use one single application to handle their music files.


I love it when people bitch about something they get for free. Hey, here's an idea... go write your own application!... then you can whine to yourself about yourself!

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