Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th Oct 2009 20:33 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Ah, the tablet computer. For over two decades now have companies tried to get the public to buy the darn things, and yet, despite all the efforts, promises, analysts, and even personal involvement by Bill Gates, they simply never took off. Recently, the tablet has seen renewed attention - but will they succeed now?
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Comment by Zifre
by Zifre on Mon 5th Oct 2009 20:55 UTC
Zifre
Member since:
2009-10-04

I would buy a tablet PC if:

a) it cost less than $1000 USD
b) it supported multi-touch
d) it had reasonable hardware specs

Unfortunately, I don't know of any tablet PC satisfying these requirements.

Maybe there is no market because there are no good tablets?

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RE: Comment by Zifre
by reez on Mon 5th Oct 2009 20:58 in reply to "Comment by Zifre"
reez Member since:
2006-06-28

b) it supported multi-touch

okay besides making al these nice videos I saw about it. What is multi touch usable for?

I haven't thought about it much, so maybe you can give me a hint ;)

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RE[2]: Comment by Zifre
by darknexus on Mon 5th Oct 2009 21:25 in reply to "RE: Comment by Zifre"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Well, it is useful for one thing I can think of off the top of my head, more gestures. One major cool application of this is accessibility to touchscreens for the visually or physically impaired, have a look at what Apple has done with the iPhone 3gs and iPod touch 3rd gen for an idea of the former case and what is possible with multi touch. Plus, more gestures can mean more games which is a selling point for many, as the games can be more intricate and challenging depending on the type of game.
Personally, if I were to buy a tablet it would have to have the ability to attach a full-size keyboard when called for if it didn't have one on it already. I think the combination of an iPod Touch or iPhone but with a larger screen and a slide-out or fixed keyboard would be awesome, as I love the interface of the iPod Touch but there's no way I'm doing extensive typing on that on-screen keyboard. Apple... Bluetooth keyboard and iPod Touch, hint hint?

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RE: Comment by Zifre
by Kroc on Mon 5th Oct 2009 21:30 in reply to "Comment by Zifre"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

But what about software?

The software matters _more_ than the hardware. Manufacturers have been building tablets for aeons. Because so few of these manufacturers have their own OS, they have failed to provide a compelling interface.

Even Windows 7 multi-touch is still a desktop OS with touch tacked on. The iPhone is really the first OS built with no regard for the mouse at all.

If there’s anybody who can make the tablet successful, it’ll be Apple—and that’s really annoying because so many manufacturers have greater resources than Apple, yet they just can’t seem to get their act together and produce a product that isn’t just mediocre.

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RE[2]: Comment by Zifre
by darknexus on Mon 5th Oct 2009 21:38 in reply to "RE: Comment by Zifre"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Perhaps they have too many resources and have most of them tied down in bureaucracy and concepts from the past decade? More resources really means nothing, it's who controls those resources and whether they have the guts and the sense to explore new concepts instead of turning out the same old crap. Most big companies, it seems, do not have the drive to innovate anymore. Love Apple or hate them, but either way you have to admire their drive.

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RE[2]: Comment by Zifre
by boldingd on Mon 5th Oct 2009 22:19 in reply to "RE: Comment by Zifre"
boldingd Member since:
2009-02-19

The software matters _more_ than the hardware. Manufacturers have been building tablets for aeons. Because so few of these manufacturers have their own OS, they have failed to provide a compelling interface.

Even Windows 7 multi-touch is still a desktop OS with touch tacked on. The iPhone is really the first OS built with no regard for the mouse at all.


Obvious, stupid comment: then maybe part of the problem is that any Microsoft tablet would (practically speaking) have to elegantly support the large mass of existing(/legacy) Windows software, on a device with a completely different interface?

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RE: Comment by Zifre
by Almafeta on Tue 6th Oct 2009 00:02 in reply to "Comment by Zifre"
Almafeta Member since:
2007-02-22

I would buy a tablet PC if: a) it cost less than $1000 USD b) it supported multi-touch d) it had reasonable hardware specs Unfortunately, I don't know of any tablet PC satisfying these requirements. Maybe there is no market because there are no good tablets?


Acer, HP, Lenovo, and Toshiba all have support for A and C right now. My next computer is going to be a convertable tablet: tablet form for graphics design courses and taking notes in all courses, laptop form for computer science courses in which I have to write code (alas, C++ is made even more difficult than it has to be by writing it out longhand). I will pay $1200 for this -- or $1000 even plus the extra-long super-duper warranty. The only downside? At this cost, their screens are universally 10.4 or 12.1 inch.

B (multitouch) is gimmicky at best right now, but should be universally supported soon, so if that's a must-have, I'd wait a year or two.

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RE: Comment by Zifre
by n4cer on Tue 6th Oct 2009 01:12 in reply to "Comment by Zifre"
n4cer Member since:
2005-07-06

I would buy a tablet PC if: a) it cost less than $1000 USD b) it supported multi-touch d) it had reasonable hardware specs Unfortunately, I don't know of any tablet PC satisfying these requirements. Maybe there is no market because there are no good tablets?


The HP TX2 meets all those criteria (unless "reasonable hardware specs" includes a Wacom digitizer [pressure-sensitivity in apps like Photoshop] -- the TX2 uses N-Trig, IIRC):
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_can_series.do?s...

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RE: Comment by Zifre
by graigsmith on Tue 6th Oct 2009 02:05 in reply to "Comment by Zifre"
graigsmith Member since:
2006-04-05

i want multi touch, AND i want pressure sensitive pen support. hey, it's nice to use your fingers, AND also be able to draw on it. and i want the screen to be like gorilla glass. and i want an oled screen. and i would prefer it to be a single device, with no foldy flipflop peices. make it look nice. make star trek jealous. and then i'll buy one.

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RE: Comment by Zifre
by TheTaz on Tue 6th Oct 2009 18:09 in reply to "Comment by Zifre"
TheTaz Member since:
2008-05-30

I would buy a tablet PC if:

a) it cost less than $1000 USD
b) it supported multi-touch
d) it had reasonable hardware specs

Unfortunately, I don't know of any tablet PC satisfying these requirements. Maybe there is no market because there are no good tablets?


I'd add ot that (On the Apple Front) a 7 inch screen "iPhone-like device" that leaned more towards OSX than the iPhone OS. And, at least one USB port... two would be better.

10 inch screen is ok... but I'd prefer 7 inch travel portability reasons. Also, you are getting into Netbook size / bulk.

A Windows equivelent would also be welcome, but they'd need to get their touch-gesturing perfected.

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