Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 7th Oct 2009 17:36 UTC
Internet & Networking After long negotiations and back and forths between the EU, Microsoft, and other browser makers, Microsoft's browser ballot proposal has been amended and offered up for debate yet again by the EU; this time around, it will actually be tested out by consumers. A number of changes have been made since the first proposal, so let's take a look.
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RE[11]: Comment by Kroc
by google_ninja on Thu 8th Oct 2009 20:32 UTC in reply to "RE[10]: Comment by Kroc"
google_ninja
Member since:
2006-02-05

A site that only supports IE (and tells you as much on the first page you visit) only gets IE traffic?!? How shocking!!

Do you know what the actual issue is? Is their javascript incompatible, does the styling break, or are they using ActiveX? If it is styling, there is really no excuse, since there are billions of cross browser sites on the internet. Any web developer worth the name doesn't even really have to think about it to be able to make something more or less look the same in all the recent browsers (not counting IE) it is just part of the job.

If it is javascript, it could be that they have a lot of it and just don't want to spend the time supporting multiple platforms. That is a pretty crappy attitude to take, but it could easily be an asshole manager who made that decision. The end result is just not professional though, and if they weren't the only option for your client I am sure they would have lost their business ages ago.

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RE[12]: Comment by Kroc
by sbergman27 on Fri 9th Oct 2009 08:39 in reply to "RE[11]: Comment by Kroc"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

It's the extensive javascript. I don't think these folks even know of the existence of the href tag. Every "link", everything, is javascript. IE6 javascript. Opera doesn't work at all. Firefox doesn't work at all. Webkit doesn't work at all. IE under Wine has difficulty.

They *are* the only option. In fact, every restaurant equipment service provider which does warranty work (and who doesn't?) in the U.S., and possibly beyond, has to use this site to get paid.

And I don't think that this is just a case of bad luck on my part that I have to deal with a company like this. I'm pretty sure that this practice is quite common among specialized business critical web apps.

Just because more mainstream sites like online banking finally got a clue does not mean that the more industry specific sites, whose services are often far more critical than online banking, are not just as bad as ever.

This is why I bristle when people try to tell me that the IE problem is already solved and so there is no point in taking any further action. I generally translate that to "My banking site works now".

Corporate intranets whose admins and programmers made a short-sighted decision and are now living with it are one thing; It's only appropriate that they are penalized for making poor decisions.

But this is something completely different. Neither I nor my client made poor decisions. And yet we get to suffer for poor decisions made by Service Management Group, the proprietors of Warranty Central.

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