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Graphics, User Interfaces InfoWorld's John Rizzo chronicles the 20 most significant ideas and features Microsoft and Apple have stolen from each other in the lead up to Windows 7 and Mac OS X Snow Leopard. 'Some features were stolen so long ago that they've become part of the computing landscape, and it's difficult to remember who invented what.' Windows 7's Task Bar and Aero Peek come to mind as clear appropriations of Mac OS X's Dock and Expose. Apple's cloning of the Windows address bar in 2007's Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard as the path bar is another obvious 'inspiration.' But the borrowing goes deeper, Rizzo writes, providing a screenshot tour of Microsoft's biggest grabs from Mac OS X and Apple's most significant appropriations of Windows OS ideas and functionality.
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RE: I'd like to know...
by poundsmack on Mon 12th Oct 2009 17:32 UTC in reply to "I'd like to know..."
poundsmack
Member since:
2005-07-13

that would take a very long time to itemize it out like that. Stolen has such a nasty connotation, let's say "borrowed."

100% from scratch inovation is rare these days, virtually everything has its roots in something else.

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RE[2]: I'd like to know...
by AaronD on Mon 12th Oct 2009 19:27 in reply to "RE: I'd like to know..."
AaronD Member since:
2009-08-19

100% from scratch inovation is rare these days, virtually everything has its roots in something else.

I would argue that innovation never happens and has never happened from scratch. Nothing is ever created in a vacuum. Everything "new" is influenced by what came before it.

J. Michael Straczynski said one time that "good writers borrow, bad writers steal." A good writer will take old ideas and add to them. The same thing happens in all of the other creative arts including coding and engineering.

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RE[3]: I'd like to know...
by tyrione on Mon 12th Oct 2009 21:41 in reply to "RE[2]: I'd like to know..."
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

"100% from scratch inovation is rare these days, virtually everything has its roots in something else.

I would argue that innovation never happens and has never happened from scratch. Nothing is ever created in a vacuum. Everything "new" is influenced by what came before it.

J. Michael Straczynski said one time that "good writers borrow, bad writers steal." A good writer will take old ideas and add to them. The same thing happens in all of the other creative arts including coding and engineering.
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Picasso was quoted as good artists copy, great artists steal. They see the vision where it could go and capitalize on it and create their own style.

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RE[3]: I'd like to know...
by StephenBeDoper on Mon 12th Oct 2009 22:39 in reply to "RE[2]: I'd like to know..."
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

J. Michael Straczynski said one time that "good writers borrow, bad writers steal."


A good position for him to take, since B5 drew heavily from Tolkien ;)

Or, as one of my former design profs used to put it: "There are no original ideas, so make sure you steal from the best."

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RE[2]: I'd like to know...
by David on Mon 12th Oct 2009 19:51 in reply to "RE: I'd like to know..."
David Member since:
1997-10-01

It's only stealing if by taking it you're depriving the owner of its use. We have a word for being inspired by someone else's idea and creating something derivative: invention. There's nothing morally wrong with copying a user interface element that works, or improving on it slightly. It's not even illegal in most circumstances. Without "stealing" we would have no civilization and no technology.

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RE[3]: I'd like to know...
by strcpy on Mon 12th Oct 2009 19:54 in reply to "RE[2]: I'd like to know..."
strcpy Member since:
2009-05-20

Sure.

I used the same words as the parent article.

Even put those in quotation marks.

I think every gets the context; no stealing in the legal sense here, nor in the parent article.

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