Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 12th Oct 2009 20:05 UTC
Mac OS X We generally don't report on individual bugs or security issues in operating systems, but a pretty serious bug has reared its ugly head in Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. If you had a guest account enabled prior to installing Snow Leopard, then you are at risk of losing all your data.
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amazing mocking
by kvarbanov on Tue 13th Oct 2009 05:40 UTC
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I'm truly amazed by apple developers, who are not willing to test and fix this. I'm on the users' side this time. The fact that the bug is hard to reproduce, speaks bad for (rotten) apple's devs. Then, they mock at some poor guy, probably someone at the age of my father, because of lack of backup. Come on people, backing up like a crazy paranoic is not the daily task most people do. But anyway, I wouldn'y buy Mac anyway, if I need FreeBSD with KDE 4, I can do it myself at no cost. Plus the lack of mocking in the forums. NO thanks. Backups ? There are SVN / CVS systems for docs / code, the rest is downloadable ...

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RE: amazing mocking
by evangs on Tue 13th Oct 2009 05:54 in reply to "amazing mocking "
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The fact that the bug is hard to reproduce, speaks bad for (rotten) apple's devs.

If you stop to think about this for a second, you'll realise just how stupid that sounds. If you can't reproduce a bug, how exactly are you supposed to fix it? Are Apple developers supposed to be masters of psychic debugging now?

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RE[2]: amazing mocking
by melgross on Tue 13th Oct 2009 08:51 in reply to "RE: amazing mocking "
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I wonder why this is happening. I have three Macs at home. All have had activated guest accounts. All three were upgraded to 10.6. None have had the problem.

The solution to prevent the problem is to go to prefs/accounts and to close the account and then open it again.

I often think that when a small number of people have a problem, it's due to some third party software or hardware mucking thing up.

Neither Apple nor MS can test for much third party stuff, software, or hardware.

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RE[2]: amazing mocking
by kvarbanov on Tue 13th Oct 2009 12:33 in reply to "RE: amazing mocking "
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No, I don't. If a bug is hard to reproduce, it means that the code is written bad, and it does not behave correctly. In a simple if statement, if the input equals 1, it will print one, else it will print 2. Just an example. Apparently, there's a chain of events that triggers this bug, and so far people have described their steps, as far as I can see from their forum. But hey, whatever the problem is, as I stated above, I don't think I will pay for neither Windows, nor Mac. I maintain my own Linux system for more than 5 years, and it doesn't have such issues. Besides, the general attitude of Apple towards their developers is somehow public available, you just need to know where to look.
That's all folks, you won't see me here in the near future, so don't bother sending me offending messages, aiming to convince me in this and that.

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RE: amazing mocking
by Soulbender on Tue 13th Oct 2009 09:39 in reply to "amazing mocking "
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The fact that the bug is hard to reproduce, speaks bad for (rotten) apple's devs.

I'm not going to defend Apple for this bug but this reasoning is just wrong. You're basically saying that good programming create more obvious and glaring bugs and that bad programming create obscure bugs.

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