Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 13th Oct 2009 18:24 UTC, submitted by Lazarus
FreeBSD Not too long ago, Apple open sourced its Grand Central Dispatch library, which aids in developing multithreaded code. It was suggested that it could be ported to other platforms, and the FreeBSD team has done exactly that. They have also done a lot of work related to getting GCD to work in a POSIX environment.
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RE: Neato
by Moulinneuf on Tue 13th Oct 2009 23:34 UTC in reply to "Neato"
Moulinneuf
Member since:
2005-07-06

It's great to see this happening


Not really, it would have been better that Apple was a minor partner in a sea of Open Source and Free Software contributor.

Apple have realized that to get wide adoption of GCD, they would have to open-source it.


Is APPLE own GCD fully Open Source ? We sadly have been down this road before with Apple, they release minor part as Open Source, where the entire complete solution is kept by them because they think the can do so.

I'm a Linux user


You mean you use GNU/Linux and the Linux kernel in some capacity. Yes, I make the distinction between casual or technologgical tool user and GNU/Linux user, because there is a real one.

but this also demonstrates one of the advantages of the BSD projects.


The fact they can't develop any new technology on there own ? Because Apple is stiffling all there technolgy advancment and stealing code for it's own advantage ?

Unlike Linux, which is just a kernel


Crap, we need to tell everyone who is employed by GNU/Linux distribution and company and project to pack it in if they are not working on the kernel ...

FreeBSD is a whole OS distribution


FreeBSD is an incomplete , broken , insufficient, un-manned not financed, BSD project who relly on others ( GNU/Linux, other BSD projects, Apple , Sun/Oracle ) for it's technological advancement.

with tighter coupling between kernel and userspace devs.


Must be why they relly on other people softwares userspace tool and dev tools ...

For Linux to get this, some distros devs will have to step up and port it,


Your trying to say that Apple people did this for FreeBSD ?

and I'm sure there will be some challenges getting the right hooks added to the kernel.


Your a kernel expert too now ?

Despite the FreeBSD folks doing most of the porting work already,


Why would they need to port it since MAc OS X is BSD and FreeBSD is BSD ? Do you mean both are not completely compatible and equal in the first place ?

I fear that it'll be a while before this starts to appear in Linux distros.


You failed to explain why GNU/Linux distro would need this at all.

Still, it's nice to see this kind of really cool infrastructure being developed and spreading.


Not really , it's the same old , you can have our crumb we don't feel like developing or keeping to ourselve that you can improve for us in order to get more marketshare because the project are all stiffled by Apple presence and the BSD protection clause ...

Linux kernel is developed In Open Source ...
KDE is developed in Open Source ...
Gnome is developed in Open Source ...
Apache is developed in Open Source ...

Apple GCD let's you have what they consider is worthwile for them that other projects get.

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RE[2]: Neato
by MamiyaOtaru on Wed 14th Oct 2009 06:50 in reply to "RE: Neato"
MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

"I'm a Linux user"

You mean you use GNU/Linux and the Linux kernel in some capacity.

Right, point out that the OS Linux users use is more than just Linux the kernel, it's Linux plus GNU tools (plus a load of other stuff that you seem to want to ignore). Par for the course from you, nothing unexpected. But then...

"Unlike Linux, which is just a kernel"

Crap, we need to tell everyone who is employed by GNU/Linux distribution and company and project to pack it in if they are not working on the kernel ...

when someone says the same thing (that Linux is just the kernel) you argue with him? WTF. Isn't that what you were just saying?

What a terrible post. FFS

Edited 2009-10-14 06:57 UTC

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RE[2]: Neato
by Laurence on Wed 14th Oct 2009 13:24 in reply to "RE: Neato"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

A bit harsh don't you think? (particularly with the kernel related comments)


Why would they need to port it since MAc OS X is BSD and FreeBSD is BSD ? Do you mean both are not completely compatible and equal in the first place ?

OS X isn't BSD.
While it's true that OS X has a kernel based on Mach and contains BSD code, OS X isn't BSD.


I fear that it'll be a while before this starts to appear in Linux distros.


You failed to explain why GNU/Linux distro would need this at all.

Just as you've failed to explain why they wouldn't need it.


Not really , it's the same old , you can have our crumb we don't feel like developing or keeping to ourselve that you can improve for us in order to get more marketshare because the project are all stiffled by Apple presence and the BSD protection clause ...

Linux kernel is developed In Open Source ...
KDE is developed in Open Source ...
Gnome is developed in Open Source ...
Apache is developed in Open Source ...

Apple GCD let's you have what they consider is worthwile for them that other projects get.


OK, we get it: BSD is evil and GPL is Jesus Christ himself.

Meanwhile, in the real world, FreeBSD gets dtrace, ZFS and jails while Linux is stuck with a half-built BtrFS.

Don't get me wrong, I love Linux to bits (I use Arch as my primary OS) - but seriously, GPL isn't the saviour of software licenses. It's just one of many good licenses available.

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RE[3]: Neato
by Oliver on Sat 17th Oct 2009 12:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Neato"
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

OS X kernel is based on Mach _and_ BSD/FreeBSD kernel.

"I'd be a bit cautious about saying XNU is a Mach kernel. XNU is not a microkernel, but it contains a lot more Mach code than FreeBSD does. However, XNU contains massive amounts of FreeBSD code, including countless IPC models, security parts, VFS, network stack, distributed file systems, etc. Saying that "Mac OS X is just FreeBSD with an Apple GUI" is certainly false on face value, but it's not correct to say that the kernel isn't in significant part FreeBSD-derived."

from Robert Watson (FreeBSD)

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/2008-August/003...

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