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"I'm a Linux user"
You mean you use GNU/Linux and the Linux kernel in some capacity.
You mean you use GNU/Linux and the Linux kernel in some capacity.
Right, point out that the OS Linux users use is more than just Linux the kernel, it's Linux plus GNU tools (plus a load of other stuff that you seem to want to ignore). Par for the course from you, nothing unexpected. But then...
"Unlike Linux, which is just a kernel"
Crap, we need to tell everyone who is employed by GNU/Linux distribution and company and project to pack it in if they are not working on the kernel ...
Crap, we need to tell everyone who is employed by GNU/Linux distribution and company and project to pack it in if they are not working on the kernel ...
when someone says the same thing (that Linux is just the kernel) you argue with him? WTF. Isn't that what you were just saying?
What a terrible post. FFS
Edited 2009-10-14 06:57 UTC
A bit harsh don't you think? (particularly with the kernel related comments)
Why would they need to port it since MAc OS X is BSD and FreeBSD is BSD ? Do you mean both are not completely compatible and equal in the first place ?
OS X isn't BSD.
While it's true that OS X has a kernel based on Mach and contains BSD code, OS X isn't BSD.
I fear that it'll be a while before this starts to appear in Linux distros.
You failed to explain why GNU/Linux distro would need this at all.
Just as you've failed to explain why they wouldn't need it.
Not really , it's the same old , you can have our crumb we don't feel like developing or keeping to ourselve that you can improve for us in order to get more marketshare because the project are all stiffled by Apple presence and the BSD protection clause ...
Linux kernel is developed In Open Source ...
KDE is developed in Open Source ...
Gnome is developed in Open Source ...
Apache is developed in Open Source ...
Apple GCD let's you have what they consider is worthwile for them that other projects get.
OK, we get it: BSD is evil and GPL is Jesus Christ himself.
Meanwhile, in the real world, FreeBSD gets dtrace, ZFS and jails while Linux is stuck with a half-built BtrFS.
Don't get me wrong, I love Linux to bits (I use Arch as my primary OS) - but seriously, GPL isn't the saviour of software licenses. It's just one of many good licenses available.
OS X kernel is based on Mach _and_ BSD/FreeBSD kernel.
"I'd be a bit cautious about saying XNU is a Mach kernel. XNU is not a microkernel, but it contains a lot more Mach code than FreeBSD does. However, XNU contains massive amounts of FreeBSD code, including countless IPC models, security parts, VFS, network stack, distributed file systems, etc. Saying that "Mac OS X is just FreeBSD with an Apple GUI" is certainly false on face value, but it's not correct to say that the kernel isn't in significant part FreeBSD-derived."
from Robert Watson (FreeBSD)
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/2008-August/003...






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Not really, it would have been better that Apple was a minor partner in a sea of Open Source and Free Software contributor.
Is APPLE own GCD fully Open Source ? We sadly have been down this road before with Apple, they release minor part as Open Source, where the entire complete solution is kept by them because they think the can do so.
You mean you use GNU/Linux and the Linux kernel in some capacity. Yes, I make the distinction between casual or technologgical tool user and GNU/Linux user, because there is a real one.
The fact they can't develop any new technology on there own ? Because Apple is stiffling all there technolgy advancment and stealing code for it's own advantage ?
Crap, we need to tell everyone who is employed by GNU/Linux distribution and company and project to pack it in if they are not working on the kernel ...
FreeBSD is an incomplete , broken , insufficient, un-manned not financed, BSD project who relly on others ( GNU/Linux, other BSD projects, Apple , Sun/Oracle ) for it's technological advancement.
Must be why they relly on other people softwares userspace tool and dev tools ...
Your trying to say that Apple people did this for FreeBSD ?
Your a kernel expert too now ?
Why would they need to port it since MAc OS X is BSD and FreeBSD is BSD ? Do you mean both are not completely compatible and equal in the first place ?
You failed to explain why GNU/Linux distro would need this at all.
Not really , it's the same old , you can have our crumb we don't feel like developing or keeping to ourselve that you can improve for us in order to get more marketshare because the project are all stiffled by Apple presence and the BSD protection clause ...
Linux kernel is developed In Open Source ...
KDE is developed in Open Source ...
Gnome is developed in Open Source ...
Apache is developed in Open Source ...
Apple GCD let's you have what they consider is worthwile for them that other projects get.