"Kubuntu has been my favorite Linux distribution since the very first release. It was made specifically for us KDE fans, branded with beautiful Kubuntu-specific artwork and themes, contained the best Qt-based software, and dared to be different. In a world ruled by Ubuntu, it's given us KDE fans something to root for. Unfortunately, Kubuntu later became known as Canonical's third wheel, and each release seems to steadily diminish in quality. What's responsible for its current status, and what should be done to improve it?"
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Member since:2005-07-06
I thought one of the hallmarks of KDE was that it DID present a consistent interface? Last time I tried a distro, with KDE4 (early version) I seem to remember all the UI components have similar configuration options?
I don't use it enough to know it, I've actually always preferred the look of gnome over kde (even the older versions of both), but I never thought KDE was badly put together... just did not appeal to me.
Member since:2005-11-14
Or perhaps developers have learnt not to care about what a very vocal and whiny group of clueless know-nothings say? The desktop toolbox isn't going to hurt you. Your fear of it is totally irrational. So why should anyone take it seriously again?
Oh, because you're whining on the internet? There are millions others just like you, whining about everything. Perhaps no one will listen simply because you have nothing interesting to say.
Member since:2009-07-24
All the distros went with Gnome way back when KDE was based on a non-free Qt. No-brainer decision at the time. KDE has been swimming against the current ever since, and their main enemy is inertia, now that all those distros are used to, and standardized on, Gnome.
So all it tells us is that distros don't want to have to support 2 different DEs at the same time.
Perhaps the most interesting thing is that despite all these disadvantages, and despite not having a corporate parent/sponsor of their own (GNOME is Novell's baby), KDE is still as popular as it is (to the point that Opensuse's *users* managed to pull off a coup of sorts).
I would love to see the commercial distros have the guts to put the issue before their own users for a vote, as Opensuse did (assuming it were possible to do so fairly). I'm pretty sure the results would quickly shut up the 'KDE is dead; long live GNOME' trolls...
Member since:2005-06-30
Member since:2009-01-29
Yet, almost every distro gives you the option to use a containment without the toolbox. And that's the point of plasma, if you don't like the default containment, then instead clicking hundreds of checkbox to get the look that you want, you just choose a different containment and that's it
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2005-08-07
I know I'm going to get moderated as a troll for saying this, but here it is: The problem is with KDE not the various distros. For all the talk about how Gnome developers dumb down the interface and are constantly removing customization options, KDE is a mess of options with no consistent way of tweaking everything together. The KDE developers have been told time and time again that their users don't want the desktop toolbox and Aaron Seigo simply refuses to allow it to be removed.
Here's the elephant in the room--maybe the reason there have been so few good KDE distros in the last few years is because the distro managers are tired of having to deal with the arrogance of KDE developers?
Yeah I know OpenSUSE just voted to default on KDE, but they're one amongst a sea of Gnome distros...maybe that should tell us something?
--bornagainpenguin