Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 19th Oct 2009 12:06 UTC, submitted by ebasconp
OpenBSD As mentioned in the release announcement: "Many people have received their 4.6 CDs in the mail by now, and we really don't want them to be without the full package repository. We are pleased to announce the official release of OpenBSD 4.6. This is our 26th release on CD-ROM (and 27th via FTP). We remain proud of OpenBSD's record of more than ten years with only two remote holes in the default install." I really want news like this on the front page, but sadly, the long list of improvements makes no sense to me - I don't know what's important and what isn't. If someone can provide a nice readable summary of the most important improvements, I'll include it to the item and place it on the front page. There we are.
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RE: Cool, but...
by sbenitezb on Mon 19th Oct 2009 12:09 UTC in reply to "Cool, but..."
sbenitezb
Member since:
2005-07-22

There are some that use OpenBSD for desktop; it's possible.

FreeBSD is nice, but having to compile everything takes a lot of time. I wish pacman + repos were available. As an intermediate solution, you could pkg_add -r *desktop-of-choice* and then compile from ports overnight. I don't know how much speed gain you get from compiling out what you don't need. I, for once, compile xorg without hal and dbus, and use xorg.conf to have it configured and stripped to a minimum. But it takes a hell of a lot of time to build my regular desktop.

NetBSD I don't know, never used it.

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RE[2]: Cool, but...
by vermaden on Mon 19th Oct 2009 13:42 in reply to "RE: Cool, but..."
vermaden Member since:
2006-11-18

FreeBSD is nice, but having to compile everything takes a lot of time.

NetBSD I don't know, never used it.


OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, all three provide packages that can be added by pkg_add(1), you MAY compile from ports, but packages are available on all of these systems.

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RE[3]: Cool, but...
by phoenix on Mon 19th Oct 2009 16:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Cool, but..."
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

There are even solutions for using only binary packages with FreeBSD:

* the -P and -PP options for portupgrade
* the pkg_upgrade script from the bsdadminscripts port
* using pkg_delete and pkg_add manually
* probably others that I haven't used yet

Ports offers the most flexibility, but it's not the only way to install software on FreeBSD.

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RE[2]: Cool, but...
by tyrione on Mon 19th Oct 2009 17:36 in reply to "RE: Cool, but..."
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

There are some that use OpenBSD for desktop; it's possible.

FreeBSD is nice, but having to compile everything takes a lot of time. I wish pacman + repos were available. As an intermediate solution, you could pkg_add -r *desktop-of-choice* and then compile from ports overnight. I don't know how much speed gain you get from compiling out what you don't need. I, for once, compile xorg without hal and dbus, and use xorg.conf to have it configured and stripped to a minimum. But it takes a hell of a lot of time to build my regular desktop.

NetBSD I don't know, never used it.


That's where Debian FreeBSD is big news.

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RE[3]: Cool, but...
by sbenitezb on Mon 19th Oct 2009 17:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Cool, but..."
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

I don't see a reason for Debian/kFreeBSD except it provides another kernel should Linus die in a car accident and their lieutenants fight to gain control of it.

What I like about the BSDs is the integration in the base system. Debian doesn't provide as much as FreeBSD in bringing a coherent system. Another thing I dislike is the tendency to bloat. You install package A and then you get packages B and C (which also depend on packages D, E, F) installed as suggestions or recommendations even if you are not going to use them. I know you can tweak that behavior, but it's annoying.

Up to date binary packages would be really nice, and pacman would make FreeBSD really rock. I know I'm not the only one asking for it...

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