Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 19th Oct 2009 12:06 UTC, submitted by ebasconp
OpenBSD As mentioned in the release announcement: "Many people have received their 4.6 CDs in the mail by now, and we really don't want them to be without the full package repository. We are pleased to announce the official release of OpenBSD 4.6. This is our 26th release on CD-ROM (and 27th via FTP). We remain proud of OpenBSD's record of more than ten years with only two remote holes in the default install." I really want news like this on the front page, but sadly, the long list of improvements makes no sense to me - I don't know what's important and what isn't. If someone can provide a nice readable summary of the most important improvements, I'll include it to the item and place it on the front page. There we are.
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lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

Have you ever really used the system? Takes time to learn but it time well spent.

Package System is incredibly easy to use and has flavors for each package so you don't have to install unnecessary dependencies. Ports system is incredibly easy to use.

I can do Play Music, Watch Video, Use Skype, Browse the web, program etc etc etc. With no problems.

There isn't any pretty GUI wizards or any other fluff that gets in the way ... using the man pages properly and a bit of reading will let you configure the system correctly for whatever you wish to use it for.

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kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

I used to run it a few years ago. As a desktop it sucked.

I wanted to try the new version, but it isn't even installing in Virtualbox.

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0brad0 Member since:
2007-05-05

I used to run it a few years ago. As a desktop it sucked.

I wanted to try the new version, but it isn't even installing in Virtualbox.


Because VirtualBox is buggy...

http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/639

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testman Member since:
2007-10-15

Works fine in Virtual PC. :-)

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strcpy Member since:
2009-05-20

I used to run it a few years ago. As a desktop it sucked.


I used to run Linux few years ago. It sucked.

Wow, it worked! You managed to drag me into your level of infancy.

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gfx1 Member since:
2006-01-20

I don't want to read man pages anymore to configure stuff.
Linux (xubuntu) is finally clever enough to figure out everything itself.
Tried pc-bsd recently and it couldn't even find the cdrom it started from during the install proces.

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0brad0 Member since:
2007-05-05

I don't want to read man pages anymore to configure stuff.
Linux (xubuntu) is finally clever enough to figure out everything itself.
Tried pc-bsd recently and it couldn't even find the cdrom it started from during the install proces.


You sound like the avg joe with no clue. Not for whom this OS is designed for.

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strcpy Member since:
2009-05-20

I don't want to read [man pages] anymore to configure stuff.


The tragedy of computing.

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Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

I don't want to read man pages anymore to configure stuff.


But how to you in fact know how to configure stuff? Stuff doesn't configure on its own. Well... X for example does, but a mailserver doesn't, a webserver doesn't, and programs don't create theirselves - the last statement is quite general, I know, and I'm intentionally excluding RPG here. :-)

Linux (xubuntu) is finally clever enough to figure out everything itself.


Everything? It configures Thuderbird for you? With your mail address and password? And it creates an IPv6 gateway automatically? Must be a great OS that makes every sysadmin, network tech and operator completely useless for the end of his life. :-)

Tried pc-bsd recently and it couldn't even find the cdrom it started from during the install proces.


Yes, PC-BSD is really a fine thing. It requires quite recent hardware to run at an acceptable speed and is not as flexible as a FreeBSD installation you create yourself, but it is not intended to be that way; it's a very convenient system for Joe Q. Sixpack and Aunt Mary. :-)

Honestly: I know several friends who use PC-BSD for some years now and are completely happy with it. The advantage of this OS is that it is a real FreeBSD OS "under the hood", so things that do not work out of the box can be made working - by the means of reading man pages and editing files.

As long as everything is new, runs fast and autodetects everything (usually due to conforming to existing standards), things are fine without manpages. But when problems arise, you are happy about their presence. I know it's possible that you can't understand such a statement because it comes from a developer and not from a user, but it is the truth. Remember that it is the developers who make the software that does "everything" for you. You shouldn't insult them by bitching out about "stupid manpages", it's unfair. Keep in mind that you are are given the privilege to use the result of their hard work for free.

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