Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Oct 2009 17:28 UTC
Apple As expected, Apple has refreshed its entire consumer line of Macintosh computers. The Mac mini, the MacBook, and the iMac lines of computers have all been overhauled, with the MacBook even getting a complete redesign. Prices in Europe have been dropped slightly, and there's a new mouse, too.
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RE: Is this a joke?
by shotsman on Wed 21st Oct 2009 15:22 UTC in reply to "Is this a joke?"
shotsman
Member since:
2005-07-22

Please let me know of any decently priced 1Tb 2.5in HDD's out there?
The Mac Mini uses them you know.
AFAIK, 500Gb is as big as you can get at the moment without paying huge $$$, £££ etc

If the mini used 3.5in disk then I'd say you have a case especially as the iMac comes with a 1Tb drive.

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RE[2]: Is this a joke?
by Tuxie on Wed 21st Oct 2009 16:56 in reply to "RE: Is this a joke?"
Tuxie Member since:
2009-04-22

You can get a 320GB 2,5" SATA disk for $65, which is only about $10 more than a 160GB one. A 500GB disk is $108, 750GB is $195 and a 1TB disk you can get for $280. These are the prices in Sweden, where tech stuff is usually quite a lot more expensive than in the US.

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RE[3]: Is this a joke?
by tylerdurden on Wed 21st Oct 2009 17:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Is this a joke?"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

Apparently, the sole cost of a computer is the hard drive. You should let the industry know ;-)

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RE[2]: Is this a joke?
by StephenBeDoper on Wed 21st Oct 2009 18:44 in reply to "RE: Is this a joke?"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

Please let me know of any decently priced 1Tb 2.5in HDD's out there?
The Mac Mini uses them you know.
AFAIK, 500Gb is as big as you can get at the moment without paying huge $$$, £££ etc

If the mini used 3.5in disk then I'd say you have a case especially as the iMac comes with a 1Tb drive.


There are also heat concerns, given how close together the components have must be in order to make the Mini, well, "mini." I'd be fairly nervous about putting a hot desktop 3.5" drive in one of those.

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RE[2]: Is this a joke?
by unclefester on Wed 21st Oct 2009 23:14 in reply to "RE: Is this a joke?"
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2007-01-13

It is typical of Apple to put style over function. Why would you use a notebook HD in desktop machine when 3.5" HDs are much cheaper and much faster? A 320GB 2.5"HD would only cost a couple of bucks more for an OEM.

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RE[3]: Is this a joke?
by darknexus on Wed 21st Oct 2009 23:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Is this a joke?"
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2008-07-15

It is typical of Apple to put style over function. Why would you use a notebook HD in desktop machine when 3.5" HDs are much cheaper and much faster? A 320GB 2.5"HD would only cost a couple of bucks more for an OEM.


Have you, by any chance, had an actual look at the size of the Mini instead of just shooting off complaints about a product with which you clearly don't actually have any experience? Take that size, take the heat that a desktop hd generates (hint, 3.5 drives get quite a bit hotter than their 2.5 counterparts), and the reason for the 2.5 drive in the mini becomes more than obvious. In an enclosure that small, you need to be very careful when it comes to the temperature of the components as it can easily get out of hand. A little logic never hurts. ;)

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RE[3]: Is this a joke?
by StephenBeDoper on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 00:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Is this a joke?"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

It is typical of Apple to put style over function.


There are valid practical reasons to use a 2.5" rather than 3.5" drive in a machine that small. You don't even have to look outside Apple's product line for examples - by many accounts I've read, the recent rash of dead 1st gen Time Capsules (Apple's router + network backup device) is due to a combination of a hot-running desktop HDDs + cramped enclosures + insufficient cooling.

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RE[3]: Is this a joke?
by bousozoku on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 00:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Is this a joke?"
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2006-01-23

It is typical of Apple to put style over function. Why would you use a notebook HD in desktop machine when 3.5" HDs are much cheaper and much faster? A 320GB 2.5"HD would only cost a couple of bucks more for an OEM.


How much would it cost to engineer a new convective path for all the extra heat to keep the current case and components from melting?

I suspect it would be more than a couple of bucks.

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