Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Jul 2005 14:16 UTC
Apple Earlier this week, Ars Technica's Jon "Hannibal" Stokes published an article which claimed to show the *real* reason why Apple went Intel. In his article, 'Hannibal' says that part of the reason for IBM and Apple's failed business relationship was that Apple tried to pull 'stunts' to get more out of IBM than they were entitled. David K. Every begs to differ.
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japail
Member since:
2005-06-30

> What makes you think that he is saying that Intel is catering to Apple other than to give good prices?

Do you actually read the articles on your site?

"Intel will do for Apple..."

"Apple wants iPods..."

"This is a huge win for Intel..."

> WHAT? Apple is the 5th largest PC manufacturer on the plannet. Thats hardly low-volume.

Apple ranks fifth in the U.S. market, not the world market.

Here's some relevant information for various quarters in the last few years:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,111622,00.asp
http://www.dataquest.com/press_gartner/quickstats/pc.html
http://www.gartner.com/press_releases/asset_112218_11.html

You can purchase data from Gartner directly if you want.

Dell ships more computers in one quarter than Apple sells in a year.


> (And what's wrong with osViews track record?)

In the last weeks the articles from your site (many of which you were credited with having submitted here no less) have been unsubstantiated flamebait. Have we forgotten the last two QNX submissions, one of which is proudly available at Trollaxor's website?

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kellym Member since:
2005-07-06

> Do you actually read the articles on your site?

yes. What's your point.


>Apple ranks fifth in the U.S. market, not the world market.

The links you provde don't illustrate that point.


>Dell ships more computers in one quarter than Apple sells in a year.

Nobody said otherwise.


>In the last weeks the articles from your site

retracted accordingly.

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rayiner Member since:
2005-07-06

Apple ranks 10th in the world market, with about 1/8 the sales of Dell overall: http://neasia.nikkeibp.com/research/images/20050215123020/Picture~*...

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japail Member since:
2005-06-30

> yes. What's your point.

Did you bother reading what I wrote or have you forgotten what you've asked me (despite your question being a completely-irrelevant leading question).

> The links you provde don't illustrate that point.

You mean other than where they enumerate the performance of the top five world-wide vendors and none of them are Apple? Or the part where they enumerate the performance of the top five U.S. vendors and Apple is fifth? Or more to the point where Apple is a comparatively a low-volume market contrary to what you attempted to contradict with your incorrect and misleading comment?

Why don't you provide evidence.

> Nobody said otherwise.

You're really moving into a position where you have absolutely no credibility with me. Apple's volumes are comparatively small, and won't afford them any special treatment over other vendors.


> retracted accordingly.

You've retracted a single piece of flamebait that anyone with any technical competence wouldn't have published in the first place, and certainly wouldn't have submitted to other sites. My point is that this is more of the same from your site. The fact that you've gone on to refer to Hannibal as biased while supporting a sourceless editorial from an Apple zealot with a much less impressive track record with objectivity just saddens me.

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