Star Nokia Sues Apple for Patent Infringment
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 15:17 UTC
Law and Order Remember when Steve Jobs unveiled the iPhone, and proclaimed, to much applause, that they patented the hell out of it? Well, apparently Apple likes to boast about its own patents, but when it comes to dealing with other's they're not so willing. That is, if you believe Nokia: the largest phone manufacturer in the world has sued Apple for patent infringement.
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by JeffS on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 16:21 UTC in reply to "..."
JeffS
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2005-07-12

Actually, it's likely not a case of "if you can't beat 'em, sue 'em", because Nokia's overall phone sales dwarfs those of Apple iPhones:

http://www.joewilcox.com/2009/09/nokia-and-the-iphone-hype-problem/

"But Apple has a long ways to go. In second quarter, according to Gartner, Nokia sold more than three times as many smartphones as Apple and, overall, 20 times more handsets. Put differently: Nokia sold more smartphones than the next four marketshare leaders combined."

Yes, it's a blog, from an MS guy. But he brings up real sales figures from Gartner. In short, Nokia sells waaaaaaaay more smart phones, and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more handsets overall, than Apple does.

And with Apple chest beating about their own iPhone patents, all I can say to them about Nokia's patent lawsuit against them is:

"neener neener neener!!!" ;-)

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by Hiev on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 16:25 in reply to "RE: ..."
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

In other words, you do aprove Nokia's patent behavior this time?

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by sbenitezb on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 17:42 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

In other words, you do aprove Nokia's patent behavior this time?


There are more colors than white and black.

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by JeffS on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 18:06 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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2005-07-12

In general, I think patents are total and complete BS, and many times people are trolling.

But in this case, Nokia did invest billions in R&D, and has legitimately licensed their patents to other handset manufacturers, and it appears these patents are actually tied to physical devices. It's not like it's patents on "clicking" or bubble-sort, or something ridiculous like that.

And the fact that Apple was shouting about their own patents ... well, what comes around goes around.

And if every other player in this market has licensed the Nokia patents, Apple should to.

But all that said, the entire patent system needs a complete overhaul, if not obliterated entirely.

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by testman on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 21:13 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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Situational ethics.

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by Hiev on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 18:33 in reply to "RE: ..."
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

Well, lets change the words Nokia for Microsoft and Apple for Linux, and instead of phones lets use operating systems, all in your own sentence and read it again just to hear how that sounds.

Edited 2009-10-22 18:35 UTC

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by aesiamun on Fri 23rd Oct 2009 06:03 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
aesiamun Member since:
2005-06-29

I still support it. If Microsoft has invested money into research and has patented it, any infringements of that patent should be punished in some form, or they can license it like everyone else.

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