Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 21:53 UTC
Windows I never thought it was possible, but as it turns out, Microsoft has managed to produce some pretty good commercials for its brand new operating system, Windows 7. They are quite product-oriented, and carry the slogan "I'm a PC and Windows 7 was my idea".
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RE: What features?
by poundsmack on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 22:33 UTC in reply to "What features?"
poundsmack
Member since:
2005-07-13

....there are so many things wrong with your post, i mean.... wow.

i could comment on every inacuracy, but I just don't have time.

Win7 is not vista SP3. there are a LOT of changes that warrant a new release and not a service pack. vista was a stepping stone to windows 7, we all know it. not that vista was particularly bad per say, but it's no windows 7.

Microsoft did good, as much as some some people hate MS (insert your own reason here), you have to hand it to them when they do something right. Been using windows 7 since before the official beta and its been great. no waiting for SP1 here.

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v RE[2]: What features?
by mickrussom on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 22:37 in reply to "RE: What features?"
RE[3]: What features?
by tomcat on Fri 23rd Oct 2009 01:14 in reply to "RE[2]: What features?"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Everything I said is correct, you cant debunk any of it. You are a bold-faced liar.


These kinds of posts are the reason that I don't converse with socially-inept geeks with Asperger Syndrome.

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RE[3]: What features?
by rockwell on Fri 23rd Oct 2009 03:48 in reply to "RE[2]: What features?"
rockwell Member since:
2005-09-13

You are a bold-faced liar.


Try "bald-faced" for this situation, you nitwit.

Ding, fries are done.


Yup, get 'em ready for my drive-through order.

Edited 2009-10-23 03:50 UTC

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RE[2]: What features?
by CPUGuy on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 22:40 in reply to "RE: What features?"
CPUGuy Member since:
2005-07-06

Hardly a stepping stone.
Vista was basically a completely new platform, 7 is an enhancement to Vista.
I'm not saying it is a service pack, but don't call Vista a stepping stone.

to be honest, all this "7 is great" stuff is pretty freaking iritating. Most of what is in 7 is in Vista. The reason why Vista was iritating was because things like drivers had to be re-written from scratch, so they sucked, things weren't in the same place so people were no longer comfortable with where they were, people had to get used to UAC (people say UAC is annoying, it is really no different than sudo or OS X's pirvleage elevation system, people just weren't used to it), etc...

Vista hate was all hype (negative hype), 7 love is all positive hype.
In the end, it's ALL hype, and sheep go along with it.

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v RE[3]: What features?
by mickrussom on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 23:12 in reply to "RE[2]: What features?"
RE[3]: What features?
by sc3252 on Fri 23rd Oct 2009 02:20 in reply to "RE[2]: What features?"
sc3252 Member since:
2005-09-06

I agree that windows 7 really doesn't feel that much better. In fact I am annoyed that the "classic" mode looks so not classic. The only thing that made me go "cool" was the changing desktop background, but that wore off fast.

To me it feels comparable to 2 gnome releases. I just don't see why its getting such praise, except for the fact that dell/hp/microsoft is telling everyone its the best thing ever and everyone seems to believe it.

Note: I have only used it for around a day now, so my opinion might change. Also I don't have a negative opinion of it, just not "wowed".

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RE[3]: What features?
by Stratoukos on Fri 23rd Oct 2009 08:43 in reply to "RE[2]: What features?"
Stratoukos Member since:
2009-02-11

people had to get used to UAC (people say UAC is annoying, it is really no different than sudo or OS X's pirvleage elevation system, people just weren't used to it)


No, it's not. In OS X (and linux afaik) you only need to sudo when installing something, when you mess with protected files and when you change system setings. I can't understand why people keep saying that a system needing administrative rights to do the simplest things is a good thing.

In my opinion UAC is not only annoying, but also ineffective. Given enough false positives, users will start ignoring it. And since false positives are the only thing I've ever seen from UAC that's what everybody is doing. If it would fire up only once a month (when needed), then a user wouldn't be so eager to press continue.

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RE[2]: What features?
by looncraz on Thu 22nd Oct 2009 23:05 in reply to "RE: What features?"
looncraz Member since:
2005-07-24

{...}no waiting for SP1 here.


I didn't even wait for it to be released. :-)

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RE[2]: What features?
by segedunum on Fri 23rd Oct 2009 17:59 in reply to "RE: What features?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

....there are so many things wrong with your post, i mean.... wow. i could comment on every inacuracy, but I just don't have time.

OK. So you want to tell us that everything in this post is wrong............but you don't want to say why.

Win7 is not vista SP3. there are a LOT of changes that warrant a new release and not a service pack. vista was a stepping stone to windows 7, we all know it.

I think you need to re-read that and understand the implications of it. The 64-bit criticisms were certainly valid and worth exploring as well as the braindamaged approach for Windows 7 XP mode. You address none of that.

Microsoft did good, as much as some some people hate MS (insert your own reason here), you have to hand it to them when they do something right.

Sorry, but I'm afraid shouting "Everybody hates Microsoft, pity them!" is not any kind of response or rebuttal.

Been using windows 7 since before the official beta and its been great. no waiting for SP1 here.

Good for you, but that doesn't answer the criticisms of the OP.

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RE[3]: What features?
by grat on Sun 25th Oct 2009 22:45 in reply to "RE[2]: What features?"
grat Member since:
2006-02-02

OK. So you want to tell us that everything in this post is wrong............but you don't want to say why.


I don't blame him. I spent awhile on it, largely because I figured someone needed to.

I think you need to re-read that and understand the implications of it. The 64-bit criticisms were certainly valid and worth exploring as well as the braindamaged approach for Windows 7 XP mode. You address none of that.


They're valid, but as I point out, linux has the same problem with lib and lib64, and there are 32 bit and 64 bit binaries, and each link to their own set of libraries. I'm not aware of an OS that can seamlessly link 64 bit and 32 bit executables to the same dynamic libraries.

As for XP mode, it's essentially a free copy of a VM. Could as easily be VirtualBox, VMWare, Parallels... and still largely unneeded. The only practical application I've found is for 32 bit apps that refuse to run on 64 bit Windows 7-- and those are rare.

Sorry, but I'm afraid shouting "Everybody hates Microsoft, pity them!" is not any kind of response or rebuttal.


Yes, but shouting "It's Dumb!" and not providing any reasons why it's dumb other than "It's not what it was" isn't really valid either.

Good for you, but that doesn't answer the criticisms of the OP.


The OP's criticism's seem to be about as valid as the Apple ad campaign in response to Windows 7-- a lot of dull, invective, personal opinion that has very little to do with the reality of Windows 7.

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