Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 23rd Oct 2009 18:08 UTC, submitted by JayDee
Hardware, Embedded Systems As if selling non-Apple labelled computers with Mac OS X pre-installed and licensing the technology to do so to third parties wasn't enough, Psystar has now moved ahead and has started offering its Rebel EFI package for everyone to buy and use. It makes it possible for just about anyone to install Mac OS X on a non-Apple labelled computer.
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Some thoughts...
by Mage66 on Fri 23rd Oct 2009 21:53 UTC
Mage66
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2005-07-11

I'm sure that it's likely that this product contains open source components. But, they aren't easy to use. It aseems like the Hackintosh enthusiasts like having the installs be as difficult and arcane as possible.

If this product makes the installs dead-easy, they respond to tech support requests, and add to the drivers available for OS X... I think this would be worth the money.

I don't have a problem paying $49.95 if they have made installation easier, provide ongoing support and updates, and develop drivers.

I would also consider a portion of the price going to support the legal costs in the lawsuit.

I think a real Apple manufactured computer is the best hardware platform to run MacOS X on. I love my Core 2 Duo Mini. But, I'd also love to run MacOS X on a Netbook, or low cost laptop until I can afford a Macbook Air, or Macbook.

The purpose of this product is to get funding for the legal battle, and to prove that MacOS X can run on non-Apple hardware. It's only Apple's purposeful action of tying MacOS X to their own hardware that keeps it from running on identical generic Intel systems.

Imagine if Microsoft had tied DOS and Windows to only run on Microsoft branded hardware, or OS/2 only ran on PS/2 computers.

I see Apple's P.O.V., but I'm just not wealthy enough to buy the Apple system equivalent to the Generic system I could build for $800 - $1000.

I bought Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard at retail, besides the copies that came with my Mini. I should be able to run them on hardware I own. If Apple won't support MacOS X on non-Apple hardware, that's fine. I bought the Mini to have a supported system.

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RE: Some thoughts...
by golimpio on Sat 24th Oct 2009 01:41 in reply to "Some thoughts..."
golimpio Member since:
2009-10-17

I'm sure that it's likely that this product contains open source components. But, they aren't easy to use. It aseems like the Hackintosh enthusiasts like having the installs be as difficult and arcane as possible.

If this product makes the installs dead-easy, they respond to tech support requests, and add to the drivers available for OS X... I think this would be worth the money.

I don't have a problem paying $49.95 if they have made installation easier, provide ongoing support and updates, and develop drivers.


That's not wrong in improve an open source software and make money with it.

It's not about the money, it's about ethic. There are people working hard (and for free) to make it possible to install a MacOSX in any PC. If companies like Psystar use their software, they must give them credit.

If they are using GPL software, they must make the source code available for download.

Psystar is not the first one, EFi-x apparently did the same (it was reported by tom's hardware).

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RE[2]: Some thoughts...
by Ed W. Cogburn on Sun 25th Oct 2009 05:15 in reply to "RE: Some thoughts..."
Ed W. Cogburn Member since:
2009-07-24

If they are using GPL software, they must make the source code available for download.


netkas didn't use the GPL. It looks to me like his license is being violated, but this case has nothing to do with the GPL or with source code.

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RE: Some thoughts...
by alcibiades on Sat 24th Oct 2009 07:43 in reply to "Some thoughts..."
alcibiades Member since:
2005-10-12

This point of view, the limited hardware range issue in general, not just on price, is quite common. It comes up almost at once when people ask you whether they should consider a Mac. They mostly have a perfectly usable screen which they would quite like to reuse.

What comes next is usually one of two things. Sometimes they talk about physical size. They would like something smaller. Shuttle type boxes seem to be quite attractive. At this point I usually end up pointing out they can get a Mini, but its horrendously expensive for what you are getting in hardware performance terms, and they flinch. These are not jacket pocket guys, they are neat on the desk, or occasional drop into a holdall guys. Or gals.

The other thing that comes up is price. Their price point is low numbers of hundreds of Euros. They have seen stuff in the shops or on the net, it looks to them like you pay 500 or so, and you get a nice big fast box. What do you have in the Apple range at that point? That's what they ask. And the answer is, well, err...

I think a lot of the hackintosh impetus would go away if Apple found some way of letting the so called X-Mac loose. Of course the problem is it would cut a lot of the ground from under the Pros. But at some point it may be inevitable.

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