Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 27th Oct 2009 11:02 UTC
Qt The Haiku alpha is barely out the door, and we already have another important news item about the open source reimplementation of the BeOS. About 18 months ago, Evgeny Abdraimov started porting the Qt4 graphical toolkit to Haiku, and now, we ave some seriously epic screenshots showing a multitude of Qt4 applications running in Haiku, as well as a developer preview release.
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RE[5]: qt, not native
by bornagainenguin on Tue 27th Oct 2009 14:42 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: qt, not native"
bornagainenguin
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2005-08-07

sbergman27 posted...

Let's refrain from spreading disinformation. Con did some interesting and important work in bringing completely fair scheduling to Linux. But his scheduler had problems... which is OK. But his attitude was that the people reporting the problems were corner cases and didn't matter... which is not. Linus told Con so in no uncertain terms. Con threw a hissy fit.


That's not what it looked like to me when I went back and read through the kernel mailing list.

As for Ingo Molnar, as far as I can tell the only reason he was selected was because he was already in the clique. The scheduler he provided did not really help all that much in making Linux work as well on desktops as it does on the big iron. If I were spreading misinformation I'd claim that Molnar "stole" his scheduler by aping Con's work. I did not and do not claim this--not even Con says this. There is no misinformation here.

I just understand that Linus has made it quite clear oiver the years where his focus is--and that is not the desktop.

Which is fine, really, because it means that all projects like Haiku have to do is provide a better desktop oriented operating system and the users will follow them. If the user drain gets large enough we might even see some changes in how responsive the Linux desktop becomes... Ah the joys of competition!

Meanwhile, as I said we have the large pool of FOSS applications from which Haiku can draw and obtain those necessary basic applications until such a time they can be either forked and rewritten as native or native applications are written capable of taking full advantage of the Haiku framework.

No matter what happens the user wins!

Just understand that people will go with what works best on their hardware, so if Linus is more happy fiddling with 4096 CPUs instead of making basic stuff like flash work, well people who want the flash to work will go elsewhere.

--bornagainpenguin

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RE[6]: qt, not native
by boldingd on Tue 27th Oct 2009 17:01 in reply to "RE[5]: qt, not native"
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2009-02-19

Which is fine, really, because it means that all projects like Haiku have to do is provide a better desktop oriented operating system and the users will follow them. If the user drain gets large enough we might even see some changes in how responsive the Linux desktop becomes... Ah the joys of competition!

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No matter what happens the user wins!

Just understand that people will go with what works best on their hardware, so if Linus is more happy fiddling with 4096 CPUs instead of making basic stuff like flash work, well people who want the flash to work will go elsewhere.


I think you make a very good point. If Haiku manages to get traction as a desktop OS in a way that Linux hasn't, or manages to draw third-party or, gasp commercial software development in a way that Linux hasn't, then the developers of Linux and Linux distros will probably notice, and hopefully change the way they operate in response. A little competitive pressure in the Free OS space will probably have a good effect on the players that are already there.

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