Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Oct 2009 20:01 UTC, submitted by Flash3441
Users remained stymied today by endless reboots after trying to upgrade their PCs to Windows 7, according to messages posted on Microsoft's support forum. An answer has yet to be found for all users, who began reporting the problem last Friday after watching the upgrade stall two-thirds of the way through the process.
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Member since:2008-08-19
Well, people never learn and usually ignore history. There's a reason for clean installs in Windows are better than upgrade.
Not just Windows, really - some Linux distros allow you to upgrade one major version to the next, but a clean install usually ends up hurting less. From all accounts, Apple seem to get things right - not sure what they do differently...
Member since:2005-06-29
Apple seem to get things right - not sure what they do differently...
That's what keeps me coming back to OS X time and again. Though it has faults as anything so complex will, that OS is the most elegant and useful I've ever worked in. Even BeOS, my favorite from my pre-Mac days, doesn't come close, though I am very excited about Haiku. I don't know what their secret is but they continue to ship the only OS that truly meets all my needs without fuss. (OK, one pet peeve: No really good PSX emulators, but that's not really Apple's fault).
I'm using Windows 7 RC for now and it's amazing apart from shitty Bluetooth support, but I'm saving up for a Mac mini. Though, I am tempted to buy a Snow Leopard retail disc and take a chance with OSX86. It's the OS more than the hardware I care about anyway, and my main system is on par with the new mini as well as easier to upgrade.
RE[3]: alas, the users
by DigitalAxis on Thu 29th Oct 2009 03:37
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Member since:2005-08-28
I dunno, I've heard of problems with third-party applications during Apple upgrades... They're not perfect either, even if their manpower and tighter control over the operating system gives them a better idea of what they're upgrading.
Now, the other side of this coin has to be Ubuntu, who is apparently shipping a known-broken wireless manager and a nonfunctional soundsystem
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Not just Windows, really - some Linux distros allow you to upgrade one major version to the next, but a clean install usually ends up hurting less. From all accounts, Apple seem to get things right - not sure what they do differently...
I had the Finder looping in two releases of Mac OS X after fresh installations. They seem to get things right much of the time, but the disasters seem to be bigger when they happen, such as the data loss bugs over the current and previous releases.
RE[3]: alas, the users
by foldingstock on Fri 30th Oct 2009 17:48
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Member since:2008-10-30
Not just Windows, really - some Linux distros allow you to upgrade one major version to the next, but a clean install usually ends up hurting less. From all accounts, Apple seem to get things right - not sure what they do differently...
Apple doesn't have to worry nearly as much about poorly written 3rd party drivers. With a small userbase and only a handful of possible hardware/software configurations, they have it easy compared to Microsoft. Some of this is due to the design of OSX and some is due to hardware lock-in.
Member since:2006-02-22
Agreed a clean install is always better - but thats my experience not just in Windows, last time I tried to upgrade Ubuntu I was left with an OS that didn't work.
Makes me think it wouldn't be a bad option for the installer to offer to back up your personal data (my docs etc or visible folders in /home) to an external hard drive or make a backup partition then do a clean install and copy it back.
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Well, people never learn and usually ignore history. There's a reason for clean installs in Windows are better than upgrade.
Windows is a very complex peace of software. An upgrade has to account for a registry full of shit or not in use anymore, broken software, incompatibilities, installed libraries, drivers, etc. You might be lucky with an almost vanilla install, but everybody knows it's better to start from scratch.
Upgrading Windows from one version to another is a pain in the ass.