Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Oct 2009 14:09 UTC, submitted by Cytor
Hardware, Embedded Systems When Psystar announced it Rebel EFI package, the company was quickly accused of simply taking open source code, repackaging it, and selling it for USD 50. While selling open source code is not a problem, not making the source code available if the license demands it is. Netkas, famous OSX86 hacker, and a Russian site are now claiming they have found the smoking gun.
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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by tylerdurden on Wed 28th Oct 2009 22:58 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
tylerdurden
Member since:
2009-03-17

Please list these things that Apple does that puts them in the same level as Pysstar.

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RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by tomcat on Thu 29th Oct 2009 01:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Geez ... where to begin...

Locking down the iPhone so that only "approved" apps can run

Changing the iPod protocols to prevent interoperability

Force-feeding iTunes users with unnecessary and unwanted additional Apple software (Safari)

Packaging Quicktime security updates with iTunes

Designing iPod battery so that you have to return the unit to get a replacement

Rejecting Google Voice and other iPhone apps that compete with Apple

Suing enthusiast websites for releasing pre-release product information

Suing enthusiast websites containing "iPod" in their domain names

Sleazily backdating stock options for Apple executives

Including a "kill switch" in the iPhone for any mod/app that Apple doesn't approve

Misappropriating work from artists such as Christian Marclay and Postal Service for use in their commercials

Outright lying in almost every Mac vs PC ad.

... there's plenty more, but you get the gist.

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RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai
by darknexus on Thu 29th Oct 2009 02:43 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Locking down the iPhone so that only "approved" apps can run


Not sure I'd call that sleazy in and of itself. What makes it less than ideal is their inconsistent application of their own policies. If they were consistent, and followed the same rules with every approval/rejection, most people would probably not be complaining about this. I've seen the results of installing an untested application on a windows mobile device, and it's not a pretty picture if the app messes with files it shouldn't.

Changing the iPod protocols to prevent interoperability


Agreed, 100%. It's far from illegal, but not nice at all.

Force-feeding iTunes users with unnecessary and unwanted additional Apple software (Safari)


Which they've corrected, and did so very soon after people complained I might add. I'm not convinced this was a concerted effort to force Safari on to Windows machines, it's more likely an oversight on either the update packagers or administrators.

Packaging Quicktime security updates with iTunes


Um, why is that bad? iTunes relies on Quicktime for it's media handling, after all, so it's as vulnerable to quicktime security issues as quicktime itself. That's like complaining if Microsoft puts security updates for DirectShow with windows media player.

Designing iPod battery so that you have to return the unit to get a replacement


Another one on which we agree.

Rejecting Google Voice and other iPhone apps that compete with Apple


See point 1 above. Notice that Skype didn't get rejected. I've a feeling that, in the case of Google Voice, contracts and politics were involved despite everyone's assertions to the contrary. Another example of inconsistently applying policy. Oh but of course, Google Voice hasn't officially been rejected according to Apple, not that it means much given how long it has been.

Suing enthusiast websites for releasing pre-release product information


Agreed again.

Suing enthusiast websites containing "iPod" in their domain names


I don't recall this one. Link please?

Sleazily backdating stock options for Apple executives


Proof please?

Including a "kill switch" in the iPhone for any mod/app that Apple doesn't approve


Every phone has a kill switch and if they don't, carriers put them in anyway. How is that any worse on the iPhone than every other cel phone out there?

Misappropriating work from artists such as Christian Marclay and Postal Service for use in their commercials


Evidence?

Outright lying in almost every Mac vs PC ad.


Every company stretches the truth about products, it's called advertising. Still, what kind of outright lies have you seen? I must have missed those particular commercials. Advertising and marketing is a world of half-truths.

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RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai
by testman on Thu 29th Oct 2009 03:40 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai"
testman Member since:
2007-10-15

Sleazily backdating stock options for Apple executives

Do you even know what that means?

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RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai
by bert64 on Thu 29th Oct 2009 09:31 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai"
bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

Geez ... where to begin...

Locking down the iPhone so that only "approved" apps can run


True, tho there are ways around it. I don't expect them to make it the default, but they shouldn't try to stop those who want to from jailbreaking the devices, since its only a select few technically minded people who would want to do that.

Changing the iPod protocols to prevent interoperability


agreed, there is no reason to use a proprietary protocol

Force-feeding iTunes users with unnecessary and unwanted additional Apple software (Safari)

While i agree with this, they're competing against microsoft who use exactly the same dirty tactics.


Packaging Quicktime security updates with iTunes

You mean you have to install itunes to patch quicktime? or you have to install quicktime to use itunes? if the latter, its because itunes requires some of the libraries provided by quicktime...


Designing iPod battery so that you have to return the unit to get a replacement


There are third party suppliers of iphone batteries already...

Rejecting Google Voice and other iPhone apps that compete with Apple

Suing enthusiast websites for releasing pre-release product information

Suing enthusiast websites containing "iPod" in their domain names

Sleazily backdating stock options for Apple executives

Including a "kill switch" in the iPhone for any mod/app that Apple doesn't approve

Misappropriating work from artists such as Christian Marclay and Postal Service for use in their commercials

Outright lying in almost every Mac vs PC ad.

... there's plenty more, but you get the gist.


Sounds just like any typical large corporation to me... as bad as apple can be, other companies do similar things and microsoft are usually much worse.

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