Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Oct 2009 23:20 UTC
As most of you will know, Nokia slapped Apple with a patent lawsuit last week. Nokia claims that Apple's iPhone infringes upon 10 patents related to GSM, UMTS, and WiFi connectivity. In its SEC 10-K annual report filing, Apple made its first cautious response to Nokia's claims.
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RE[2]: Same old cliche'd response
by tomcat on Thu 29th Oct 2009 17:07
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Apple appears to think it does not have to respect other people's intellectual property, while demanding that other respect theirs.
I agree with you. That's the crux of the problem and, in the end, Apple will quietly license the patented technology from Nokia, and the issue will disappear with a whimper. Meanwhile, Apple will put on a confident public face through their lawyers, blathering about "vigorously defending themselves, blah, blah, blah..." Apple won't take the chance of bringing this case to court, because it would probably mean giving away a percentage of each iPhone sale to Nokia and the other IP owners.
RE[3]: Same old cliche'd response
by puenktchen on Thu 29th Oct 2009 22:24
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Member since:2007-07-27
Apple won't take the chance of bringing this case to court, because it would probably mean giving away a percentage of each iPhone sale to Nokia and the other IP owners.
but that's exactly what seems to be the normal terms of licensing. they'll have to pay 3% to nokia, 2% to qualcomm, 1% to ericcson etc..
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"May those thieving accountants and their lying lawyers burn in hell and be sodomised for all eternity - vigorously."
Hilarious!!
My sentiments exactly. May this happen to all patent trolls!
But in this case, I don't consider Nokia a patent troll. Their entire product line uses these patents, and they've already licensed these patents to several other companies, and they've spent billions developing the technology.
This is a rare case where, with what limited knowledge of the case I currently possess, I side with the company doing the suing, not the company being sued.
Apple appears to think it does not have to respect other people's intellectual property, while demanding that other respect theirs.
As for Nokia losing market share - yes that has happened. However, they still sell more smart phones, and more phones overall, than all their other competitors (including Apple) combined, according to Gartner. In fact, Nokia sells about 3 times as many smart phones as Apple does.
It's just that Nokia doesn't have the same marketing glitz Apple does, nor the same cult following Apple does. So everyone assumes Apple is kicking Nokia's butt in the market place, which of course is false (albeit they have taken some share away).
And I have no strong feelings about Nokia one way or the other. I have a basic Nokia flip phone. It's okay, but nothing special.
And I have an iPod. It's a good device, but it depends on iTunes, which I hate (both the store and the software).
I also hate Apple's arrogance. It will be good for them to served some humble pie.