Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th Oct 2009 15:39 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu We're a little late, but Real Life got in the way, so here we finally are. Canonical, the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu, announced today that Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop Edition has been released. This version focusses on improvements in cloud computing on the server using Eucalyptus, further improvements in boot speed, as well as development on Netbook Remix. The related KDE, Xfce, and other variants have been released as well. Update by ELQ: Just a quick note to say that one of my Creative Commons videos was selected to be part of Ubuntu's Free Culture Showcase package that comes by default with the new Ubuntu version!
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Comment by ocellaris
by ocellaris on Thu 29th Oct 2009 17:27 UTC
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I hope in their PulseAudio "enhancements", they made it play better with WINE. This has been a significant problem for some times and its completely ruined multiple attempts by me to get others switching over to Linux desktops. I can get people all situated, show them how everything works, get their needed Windows apps running in WINE... Then 2 weeks later they give up on the whole thing because WINE blows up due to audio issues.

I certainly do not feel that Pulse was anywhere near ready for prime time when Ubuntu first included it in the distro and make ubuntu-desktop dependent on it.

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RE: Comment by ocellaris
by adricnet on Thu 29th Oct 2009 17:38 in reply to "Comment by ocellaris"
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Well, it seems okay this week.

I had horrible sound performance with Wine's default of ALSA but when I switched it to esd (in winecfg) it settled down nicely. I'm using Crossover Games 8, btw, so it's under configure bottle, control panel, and winecfg.

It's also possible that the last updates to Karmic fixed the problem and that my configuration change was irrelevant since it's all Pulse.

Don't forget to install the gui PA controls paman, still not standard (?1)

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RE: Comment by ocellaris
by AirIntake on Thu 29th Oct 2009 19:21 in reply to "Comment by ocellaris"
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No kidding. 9.10 regressed audio for me. It loses my Realtek HD audio (82801H) after a few reboots, forcing me to do a alsa force-reload to get it back. The bug reports are there for this issue, but it's still a big regression for me, as 8.04, 8.10, and 9.04 all worked flawlessly on the same hardware.

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RE[2]: Comment by ocellaris
by sbergman27 on Thu 29th Oct 2009 19:43 in reply to "RE: Comment by ocellaris"
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I'm wondering how far down the tubes Linux sound will have to go before the distros decide that supporting crappy, incapable sound hardware with software mixing and other crap is just not worth it.

Sound has been reliable under Linux for some years now. But over the last year, audio reliability has taken a dive that I can scarcely believe.

And this is one regression that we can't really blame the hardware manufacturers for. Our distros did it to themselves. And to us.

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