Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th Oct 2009 15:39 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu We're a little late, but Real Life got in the way, so here we finally are. Canonical, the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu, announced today that Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop Edition has been released. This version focusses on improvements in cloud computing on the server using Eucalyptus, further improvements in boot speed, as well as development on Netbook Remix. The related KDE, Xfce, and other variants have been released as well. Update by ELQ: Just a quick note to say that one of my Creative Commons videos was selected to be part of Ubuntu's Free Culture Showcase package that comes by default with the new Ubuntu version!
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RE[3]: Buggy, buggy
by lemur2 on Fri 30th Oct 2009 00:23 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Buggy, buggy"
lemur2
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2007-02-17

"Upgrading any OS at all rarely works well. The recommendation for Linux distributions is to make separate partitions for / (root), /home and swap. When it comes to a new distribution to try, or an upgrade to your existing distribution, then install the new OS with re-format to the root partition (/), and use but do NOT re-format the /home partition. Sweet. Works every time, no problems normally. Installing a Linux distribution to a freshly-formatted / partition form a LiveCD normally takes only 20 minutes or so. If you haven't done this separate partitions arrangement, then you can still recover the situation. Using a LiveCD, save everything existing under /home to another backup disk, wipe the first disk and re-partition it to have separate /, /home and swap partitions, restore the contents of /home from the other backup disk, then re-install the new OS to /. After re-boot, re-create your users with the same usernames as before, and accept the existing home directories for them.
Yes, but wouldn't you have to manually re-install all your software too? (stuff that wouldn't be in the home folder)... and the dependent libraries... and other miscellaneous stuff... I did a complete wipe when I went from 8.04 to 8.10 and reinstalling and reconfiguring everything was a major pain in the ass. That's what made me want to to an upgrade this time. Having to reinstall and reconfigure every time there's an update seems like total inefficiency to me. "

Meh.

Most distributions, such as Ubuntu or Kubuntu, install almost everything that you would need for a standard desktop out of the box.

On Kubuntu, after a fresh install I install firefox and smbfs and a couple of extra libraries, and that is about it.

If you really want, keep a couple of files from /etc that you find yourself having to reconfigure all the time. I haven't found that to be necessary. I do have an off-system copy of some .ttf files however (saved from a ttf fonts directory several years ago), but it takes only a minute to re-add those files as system fonts.

I do find it advisable to edit /etc/adduser.conf. In that file I enable the default user groups that I want. Then adding my users back again is simply a matter of typing "sudo adduser username" and then their password for each user. I do believe there is a "newusers" script that you can run if you have a lot of users, that will take as input a copy of the old file from /etc/passwd, so saving that file as well could save you time for a new install.

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RE[4]: Buggy, buggy
by lemur2 on Fri 30th Oct 2009 03:23 in reply to "RE[3]: Buggy, buggy"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I do believe there is a "newusers" script that you can run if you have a lot of users, that will take as input a copy of the old file from /etc/passwd, so saving that file as well could save you time for a new install.


Here it is:

http://linux.die.net/man/8/newusers

What you do is ensure that /home is intact, then take a copy of the existing /etc/passwd file before you wipe / and re-install the new OS. You would then replace all of the encrypted password fields with a new clear text password. You would then run the newusers command using your modified file as input.

Your existing users would all then have their existing /home directories and be able to log in to the new OS with the new password.

It would be prudent to require that they all change their password straight away.

Edited 2009-10-30 03:24 UTC

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