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General Unix I had the pleasure earlier this month of attending a demo day at HP's Cupertino campus to commemorate the ten year anniversary of the Superdome server, see what's new in the high-end server market and learn about what's going on with HP-UX.
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RE: The IBM option
by kaiwai on Fri 30th Oct 2009 02:53 UTC in reply to "The IBM option"
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

I think IBM pretty much cleans shop at megaservers with the ultra speedy POWER6+ p 595. Itanium has yet to pay any dividends for HP. The only reason I'd consider the HP option would be if we had legacy HP-UX apps.

With IBM, you can run any mix of Linux, AIX, and i OS. Linux on POWER is second only to x86, AIX is pretty close to HP-UX but probably better for DB2 and Oracle, while i OS has a large presence in companies that have been around awhile.

POWER7 will be lethal. It will be interesting to see if Oracle/Sun can keep up. Intel seems to not really care about Itanium.


I'm actually surprised that Itanium is still being developed given how far the x86-64 has come - personally, I'd love to see HP port OpenVMS to x86-64 and sell workstations and servers pre-loaded with OpenVMS on it ;) x86-64 with some effort on chipset design can be just as reliable as Itanium but without the massive cost involved and prohibitively high development costs.

Oh well, its only a dream ;)

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OpenVMS on X86?
by shotsman on Fri 30th Oct 2009 07:57 in reply to "RE: The IBM option"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

That will be the day Hell Freezes over then?

Seriously, if HP could kill VMS tomorrow then they would. But too many businesses use it. They find it sits there day in, day out and runs and runs and runs.
Last year, I decomissioned a VAX Cluster that had a cluster uptime of 17.6 years.

If by some chance HP were to have a sudden attack of Common Sense then the first complaints would be
Select 1 from below
Where's my MS Messenger?
Where's MS Word
Where's Photoshop

Sort of just like what people say about Linux

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RE: OpenVMS on X86?
by kaiwai on Fri 30th Oct 2009 09:05 in reply to "OpenVMS on X86?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

That will be the day Hell Freezes over then?

Seriously, if HP could kill VMS tomorrow then they would. But too many businesses use it. They find it sits there day in, day out and runs and runs and runs.
Last year, I decomissioned a VAX Cluster that had a cluster uptime of 17.6 years.

If by some chance HP were to have a sudden attack of Common Sense then the first complaints would be
Select 1 from below
Where's my MS Messenger?
Where's MS Word
Where's Photoshop

Sort of just like what people say about Linux


OpenVMS for x86-64 workstations and servers wouldn't be for the great unwashed masses but for high end workstation stuff that needs to be done, and massive multicore x86-64 servers serving millions each day. The problem with HP, it would require them to look long term, invest some money and stop being a bitch for Microsoft. HP might as well label themselves "HP, subsidiary of Microsoft" - at least it would be an honest reflection of their business plans.

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