Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th Oct 2009 15:39 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu We're a little late, but Real Life got in the way, so here we finally are. Canonical, the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu, announced today that Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop Edition has been released. This version focusses on improvements in cloud computing on the server using Eucalyptus, further improvements in boot speed, as well as development on Netbook Remix. The related KDE, Xfce, and other variants have been released as well. Update by ELQ: Just a quick note to say that one of my Creative Commons videos was selected to be part of Ubuntu's Free Culture Showcase package that comes by default with the new Ubuntu version!
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Rahul
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2005-07-06

Transitional bugs happen on every occasion including the move from crufty distribution specific scripts to NetworkManager. I am not saying that your criticism of the project itself as silly (it might or it might not be but that is a entirely different discussion) but I am definitely going to call it very silly and ridiculously stupid if you persist on blaming Fedora for what Ubuntu decides to include by default with known broken non-upstream patches.

You are indulging is some wild hand-waving and mental gymnastics like guilt by association to somehow rechristen PulseAudio as a Fedora project despite the clear facts being explained to you. PulseAudio, originally called Polypaudio was developed for several years as a entirely volunteer project. Fedora Project widely got the credit for including PulseAudio by default. That does not somehow make it a Fedora Project.

Face the reality: Pretty much every major distribution and several popular mobile devices are shipping with PulseAudio by default. So somehow all of them are stupid or they understand the benefits and it is working well for them. I will leave you to decide which sounds more realistic.

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Pretty much every major distribution and several popular mobile devices are shipping with PulseAudio by default.

And where has it gotten Linux? Windows is still killing us on the desktop. Linux is still a rarity on mobiles. Sound has taken a dive on all platforms that use Pulseaudio. What is it that you are trying to say?

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Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

I have told you this many times but I will tell you one more time just in case you haven't understood it yet. Stop blaming Fedora for what Ubuntu includes by default! PulseAudio is NOT a Fedora Project. It is included by every major distribution. It is working very well for the large majority of users and getting increasing adoption all the time. This is the reality.

PulseAudio exposes more features and has exploited certain ALSA API's never used before. This has resulted in various ALSA bugs getting exposed for the first time and fixed. So many of the issues which seem superficially as PulseAudio bugs are often not. This is similar to how adoption of NetworkManager resulted in various wireless drivers getting fixed.

If you don't like anything about individual upstream projects, engage in constructive criticism. Calling free software projects cancer or poisonous is pointless trolling. It is just disappointing to see that.

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