Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 30th Oct 2009 22:42 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones Mozilla has released the first beta release of Firefox 3.6, which comes with some nice Windows 7 integration features. More specifically, the Firefox 3.6 beta integrates with the new taskbar in Windows 7.
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RE[2]: Comment by tobyv
by Soulbender on Sat 31st Oct 2009 08:50 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by tobyv"
Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

1) Is this integration being fed back into the relevant products code base?


It's open source. If upstream want it they can just get it.

2) What about KDE, XFCE etc?

I guess they'll have to get cracking on it on their own if they want it.

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RE[3]: Comment by tobyv
by shotsman on Sat 31st Oct 2009 12:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by tobyv"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

There is a whole world of difference between making the sources (& thus the changes made) available than actually and pro-actively submitting the changes into the core project.
It is the latter I'm interested in.

If they are doing it then great, fine, fantastic. It is however all to easy to skip this bit.

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RE[3]: Comment by tobyv
by CrLf on Sat 31st Oct 2009 12:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by tobyv"
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2006-01-03

It's open source. If upstream want it they can just get it.


What? It's not upstream that has to go around finding stuff to integrate. It's the ones who create new stuff that have to offer them to upstream projects. This is what it means to be a good citizen in the open source community.

Upstream projects are just the reference code base, they are not people. The people are whoever contributes.

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RE[4]: Comment by tobyv
by ple_mono on Sat 31st Oct 2009 16:48 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by tobyv"
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2005-07-26

What? It's not upstream that has to go around finding stuff to integrate. It's the ones who create new stuff that have to offer them to upstream projects. This is what it means to be a good citizen in the open source community.

Upstream projects are just the reference code base, they are not people. The people are whoever contributes.


Please, if someone doesn't share your exact definition of freedom, that does not automatically mean they are not good citizens. It's a simple as that.

One could also say it's much more complicated than that. Do you demand from a child that he/she gives back to society the instant they are given something? Does it matter *how and what* that individual gives back eventually? Who will decide what the "giving back" is ultimately worth?

The "open source community" does not have a strict definition for what it means to be a good citizen. You may, however, and i can certainly respect that. Just don't make it sound like you represent the whole "open source community".

Edited 2009-10-31 16:49 UTC

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