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OSNews, Generic OSes Another week gone bye-bye, another Week in Review. Ubuntu 9.10 was the star of the week of course, but we also talked about language, the HTC Hero, and wall warts. Yes we did.
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RE: Ubuntu...
by cmost on Mon 2nd Nov 2009 00:47 UTC in reply to "Ubuntu..."
cmost
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2006-07-16

I made the mistake of deciding to do a distro upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10. DON'T try that. It might work, or it might fail horribly and leave you with a barely usable installation like it did me ;)


Contrary to popular belief, upgrades from one version of Ubuntu to the next rarely if ever work correctly. I think because it could theoretically work for a select few people, the devs like to tout the process as foolproof for everybody. Hardly! Many people utilize PPA repositories or install software from source which could present problems when upgrading. I learned that lesson the hard way quite awhile ago and always do a fresh install.

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RE[2]: Ubuntu...
by sbenitezb on Mon 2nd Nov 2009 01:19 in reply to "RE: Ubuntu..."
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

I think rolling release distros are a better way to keep your system up to date without having to switch to a different repository every six month. Not newbie proof, of course.

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RE[3]: Ubuntu...
by lemur2 on Mon 2nd Nov 2009 01:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Ubuntu..."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I think rolling release distros are a better way to keep your system up to date without having to switch to a different repository every six month. Not newbie proof, of course.


I keep a separate /home partition. That means I can reformat / and install a new Linux OS (it doesn't even have to be the same distribution as before) and just carry on from there. If the new OS doesn't suit ... I can just revert to the original, or indeed try another distribution.

It typically takes only about 30 miuntes to swap the distribution in the / partition like this. If you don't want even that disruption, why not just stick with what you already have in the first place?

PS: My upgrade to Kubuntu 9.10 has gone flawlessly on each of four different machines to date.

Edited 2009-11-02 01:53 UTC

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RE[2]: Ubuntu...
by bousozoku on Mon 2nd Nov 2009 01:30 in reply to "RE: Ubuntu..."
bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23


Contrary to popular belief, upgrades from one version of Ubuntu to the next rarely if ever work correctly. I think because it could theoretically work for a select few people, the devs like to tout the process as foolproof for everybody. Hardly! Many people utilize PPA repositories or install software from source which could present problems when upgrading. I learned that lesson the hard way quite awhile ago and always do a fresh install.


According to the "How did your upgrade/installation go?" poll in the Ubuntu forums, fresh installations and upgrades aren't that dissimilar.

I've had good luck, I suppose, even with some software added outside Synaptic, from 7.04 to 9.04. They seemed to get worse as time progressed. Of course, the Broadcom wireless drivers always seem to be a problem.

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RE[2]: Ubuntu...
by sultanqasim on Mon 2nd Nov 2009 02:49 in reply to "RE: Ubuntu..."
sultanqasim Member since:
2006-10-28

I'd second that. I've never succeeded in upgrading Ubuntu; something always goes wrong, and it's something different each time. I must always do a clean install.

However, I've never had problems upgrading with rolling release distros (i.e. Arch Linux).

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RE[2]: Ubuntu...
by Soulbender on Mon 2nd Nov 2009 07:53 in reply to "RE: Ubuntu..."
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2005-08-18

Contrary to popular belief, upgrades from one version of Ubuntu to the next rarely if ever work correctly


Really. That must be why I have distro upgraded my laptop since Intrepid and it is still working fine. I'm also using PPA's without any problems when upgrading.

I think because it could theoretically work for a select few people, the devs like to tout the process as foolproof for everybody


I cant recall when and where it has been touted as "foolproof for everybody".

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RE[2]: Ubuntu...
by darknexus on Mon 2nd Nov 2009 16:11 in reply to "RE: Ubuntu..."
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

I don't think any upgrade is fool proof for everyone. No matter what os, no matter what software, there's just no way to take into account every possible configuration change one might have made. I've had Ubuntu upgrades work perfectly, and I've had them royally screw up. I've had the same experiences with Arch, Gentoo, Debian, OpenBSD, OS X, and certainly Windows just to name a few. Os upgrading will never be a completely smooth experience, there's just too much that can't be tested.

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