Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 2nd Nov 2009 18:08 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
Mac OS X Anyone who hangs around on websites with information about installing Mac OS X on non-Apple labelled computers has probably already encountered this report, but it's newsworthy anyway. The upcoming release of Mac OS X 10.6.2 will remove support for the Intel Atom line of processors from Mac OS X.
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RE[2]: Comment by haus
by apoclypse on Mon 2nd Nov 2009 20:49 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by haus"
apoclypse
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2007-02-17

You really want to go there, because the list will be at least 2 pages long. Innovation doesn't always mean first to get there sometimes its first to make it good. Steam Boat Willy wasn't the first to implement sound, just the first to make good use of the technique.

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RE[3]: Comment by haus
by tupp on Mon 2nd Nov 2009 22:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by haus"
tupp Member since:
2006-11-12

You really want to go there, because the list will be at least 2 pages long.

Sure. It's not like we've been through this a zillion times before. Love to see that list!


Innovation doesn't always mean first to get there sometimes its first to make it good.

Really?

Are we already qualifying definitions to suit our arguments?

I always thought that an innovator was the first to come-up with an idea -- the inventor -- not the one who "popularizes" the idea.

In addition, what exactly is meant by the phrase "... the first to make it good?"


Steam Boat Willy wasn't the first to implement sound, just the first to make good use of the technique.

A perfectly apt analogy.

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RE[4]: Comment by haus
by jgagnon on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 20:29 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by haus"
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2008-06-24

"Innovation doesn't always mean first to get there sometimes its first to make it good.

Really?

Are we already qualifying definitions to suit our arguments?
"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/innovate?db=luna

Specifically:

1. to introduce something new; make changes in anything established.

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RE[3]: Comment by haus
by BallmerKnowsBest on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 00:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by haus"
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2008-06-02

You really want to go there, because the list will be at least 2 pages long.


And it will consist almost entirely of things that would be invalidated by a mountain of prior art, if Apple were dumb enough to try patenting them.

Innovation doesn't always mean first to get there sometimes its first to make it good. Steam Boat Willy wasn't the first to implement sound, just the first to make good use of the technique.


In other words they're not innovations, they're just variations on other people's innovations and Apple deserves no credit for the innovations themselves (the mouse, the GUI, the portable MP3 player, etc etc etc). If software patents had existed in Douglas Engelbart's day, then he could probably sue for every single penny of income that Apple has ever made.

The most pathetic claim of an Apple innovation was probably when they claimed that the dual G4 PowerMacs were the first multi-processor desktops in existence - despite the fact that SMP had been available even in the PC world for at least a decade. Not to mention the presence of SMP on nearly every other major CPU architecture, and even from Mac cloners like Power Computing.

But the best part was the circular, self-contradictory reasoning that made up the stock response from Apple apologists: they claimed that earlier x86 SMP machines weren't actually PCs, but workstations because they contained multiple processors... Sadly, this was before the word "facepalm" was coined.

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