Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 2nd Nov 2009 23:59 UTC
Windows Windows 7 has been out and about for little over a week now, and as it turns out, Microsoft's new baby is doing relatively well. That is, according to the figures by NetApplications: Windows 7 already reached the 3% mark this weekend, and is already closing in on the 4% mark.
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RE: Windows market share
by flanque on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 02:04 UTC in reply to "Windows market share"
flanque
Member since:
2005-12-15

If all that makes you feel good and sleep well at night then fair enough. Who am I to deny you that..

The bottom line at least for me is that Linux based operating systems don't even come close to competiting with something like Windows 7. It is by far a superior desktop operating system to anything that the Linux desktop alternatives have to offer.

Microsoft have done very well with this release.

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RE[2]: Windows market share
by lemur2 on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 02:36 in reply to "RE: Windows market share"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

If all that makes you feel good and sleep well at night then fair enough. Who am I to deny you that.. The bottom line at least for me is that Linux based operating systems don't even come close to competiting with something like Windows 7. It is by far a superior desktop operating system to anything that the Linux desktop alternatives have to offer. Microsoft have done very well with this release.


Ubuntu (and Kubuntu) is a faster desktop OS than Windows 7:

http://www.tuxradar.com/content/vista-windows-7-ubuntu-904-and-910-...

http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-vs-windows-7

Ubuntu/Kubuntu comes with vastly more and significantly better quality desktop software, it is cheaper and faster to run, running it on as many machines as you want carries no risks with respect to license compliance, it runs on a vastly wider array of existing desktop hardware, it supports a significantly wider array of data formats, it even has more desktop "bling", and if you are prepared to stick to installing software only from open source repositories, it is guaranteed to get no malware.

So while it is perfectly reasonable for you to say that Windows 7 is better for you, such a view can hardly be called universally objective. It just doesn't stand up under any objective criteria whatsoever.

Edited 2009-11-03 02:50 UTC

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RE[3]: Windows market share
by flanque on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 02:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Windows market share"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

That's precisely why I said for me.

The majority of the review is also very positive so it's not as isolated a point of view than just mine.

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RE[3]: Windows market share
by sukru on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 02:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Windows market share"
sukru Member since:
2006-11-19

But those individual "me's" add up to a lot of "us".

Edited 2009-11-03 02:47 UTC

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RE[3]: Windows market share
by tobyv on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 03:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Windows market share"
tobyv Member since:
2008-08-25

Ubuntu (and Kubuntu) is a faster desktop OS than Windows 7


Saidth the Tux Radar.

It just doesn't stand up under any objective criteria whatsoever.


Tux Radar is objective? Well I've got some objective reports from our objective friends at Microsoft Research that you just gotta see! ;-)

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RE[3]: Windows market share
by izomiac on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 03:45 in reply to "RE[2]: Windows market share"
izomiac Member since:
2006-07-26

Graphs without error bars, boot times 3-7 times longer than what I see, and reporting Vista to be faster than 7 makes me suspicious of those tests. OTOH, as for speed, beating stock Windows and desktop Linux would be like winning the Special Olympics; both tend to be behemoths.

Cost, licensing, and legacy hardware support are better with Linux. Modern hardware support is better in Windows, as is application selection. If Linux was uniformly better then it'd be more mainstream. If Windows was uniformly better then desktop Linux wouldn't exist. Any criteria that finds Windows deficient in all regards is simply not in touch with reality.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

and no one cares about them not being in a repository. I personally hate the repository system since it creates a delay after the developer has released a critical update. I prefer going to the developer's website to get the latest version directly. I don't want a middle-man.

As for boot time who the hell cares when you can't boot into an OS that doesn't run mainstream software like MS Office and Itunes.

My ipod boots up immediately but that isn't a good reason to use it as a desktop replacement.

Why do you push Linux advocacy so much on this website anyways? You really think the people that read OSNEWS aren't aware of Linux?

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RE[3]: Windows market share
by pandronic on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 08:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Windows market share"
pandronic Member since:
2006-05-18

Ubuntu/Kubuntu comes with vastly more and significantly better quality desktop software


In what reality?

Software available for desktop Linux comes nowhere near to what is available for Windows and OS X. I've been using all three for a few years and there is no way I or anyone I know could fully switch to Linux. 99% of the people agree ;)

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Ubuntu/Kubuntu comes with vastly more and significantly better quality desktop software


Now, if only the Ubuntu team had done any form of q/a, I could've actually enjoyed that desktop software you're talking about.

As it stands now, I'm using an Intel video chipset. Meaning, no Ubuntu/Kubuntu, because the Ubuntu team failed to test their release on the most common brand of video chips.

Fail.

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videokilledradiostar Member since:
2009-11-03

You can throw all the URL links you want at me about Win7 vs Ubuntu, but even Windows XP is better than anything Linux can do now, in terms of just working without any hassles.

I have used all the OS flavors, and Windows is on top for a reason: everything supports windows. With Linux, when you buy a new laptop, you have to make sure if everything is supported, otherwise you will have to spend hours setting up everything to work right, by reading random internet forums where people have had the same problems.

Ubuntu is getting better and better all the time, but I have probably spent hundreds of hours tinkering with things that don't work over the years, when I could have just used windows and not had any problems.

And now, with Microsoft releasing a decent operating system (unlike Vista), Linux is going to have an even harder time being adopted.

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RE[3]: Windows market share
by koki on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 15:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Windows market share"
koki Member since:
2005-10-17

So while it is perfectly reasonable for you to say that Windows 7 is better for you, such a view can hardly be called universally objective. It just doesn't stand up under any objective criteria whatsoever.


And what kind of (universal?) objectivity can you expect from a review at a linux-biased site like tuxradar.com?

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RE[3]: Windows market share
by grat on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 16:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Windows market share"
grat Member since:
2006-02-02

Two things stood out reading the tux article(s)...

1) They're heavily slanted towards the penguin (duh).

2) They're not that familiar with the UI changes in Windows 7, or they're just being misleading.

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StaubSaugerNZ Member since:
2007-07-13

Yes, I've personally found that Ubuntu 9.10's boot-time speed improvements have leap-frogged it ahead of Windows 7 (the previous record holder) - which makes Windows 7 a "legacy: platform for me now, lol.

My personal experience is Windows 7 is nice for desktop stuff and gaming, and probably quite good for other non-power users, but not as good for development, high-performance and portable computing.

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RE[3]: Windows market share
by twitterfire on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 19:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Windows market share"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11



Faster only if you think boot speed equals desktop speed. And if you are a fanboy. But I can assure you that even if it boots faster (I can't say that, but let's assume), it's by no means faster than 7. I double booted Ubuntu 9.10 an Windows 7 for about 2 weeks and nothing in Ubuntu seems faster.

Ironically Microsoft Word 2007 starts much, much faster with wine then Open Office Org starts native.


Ubuntu/Kubuntu comes with vastly more and significantly better quality desktop software, it is cheaper and faster to run,


Are you planning to be a comedian? Or are you acting just like a simple fanboy?

What's better? The fact that Network Manager is broken? The fact that pppoeconf stalls? The fact that various programs are crashing?

Or the fact that Open Office can't open a .doc or .docx document whitout breaking it? The fact that gimp sucks when you compare it with Photoshop? The fact that you can't find professionally written software? The fact that 99.99% of largely used software does not run native on Ubuntu?


running it on as many machines as you want carries no risks with respect to license compliance,

I only need my OS to run on one machine.


it runs on a vastly wider array of existing desktop hardware


Can we laugh? Are you refering to mips and arm as "desktop hardware"? Because if you talk about x86 and adon cards, windows suports much more hardware than any other os.

it even has more desktop "bling"

I want an OS, not a whore. If you are in for "bling", you can use Mac OS X.

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RE[2]: Windows market share
by andydread on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 13:24 in reply to "RE: Windows market share"
andydread Member since:
2009-02-02


The bottom line at least for me is that Linux based operating systems don't even come close to competiting with something like Windows 7. It is by far a superior desktop operating system to anything that the Linux desktop alternatives have to offer.

Microsoft have done very well with this release.


Citation needed please.

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RE[3]: Windows market share
by grat on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 16:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Windows market share"
grat Member since:
2006-02-02

Since when are citations needed for a personal opinion?

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RE[2]: Windows market share
by Stephen! on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 15:10 in reply to "RE: Windows market share"
Stephen! Member since:
2007-11-24

is that Linux based operating systems don't even come close to competiting with something like Windows 7.


But then again, it's not like Linux was ever intended to compete with Windows in the first place.

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RE[3]: Windows market share
by jgagnon on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 15:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Windows market share"
jgagnon Member since:
2008-06-24

But then again, it's not like Linux was ever intended to compete with Windows in the first place.


Maybe not originally, but there are certainly many distributions currently targeting the desktop as an alternative to Windows.

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