Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 2nd Nov 2009 23:59 UTC
Windows 7 has been out and about for little over a week now, and as it turns out, Microsoft's new baby is doing relatively well. That is, according to the figures by NetApplications: Windows 7 already reached the 3% mark this weekend, and is already closing in on the 4% mark.
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RE[8]: Windows market share
by lemur2 on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 11:20
in reply to "RE[7]: Windows market share"
Member since:2007-02-17
""Its the OEMs fault" is the exact same response you get whenever you point out that poor quality drivers (or lack thereof) crash and burn Windows 7.
Apples and oranges.
We're comparing default installations, without added software. You will NOT find crappy drivers included in the default install of Windows 7 in the same way this crappy Intel driver is included in Ubuntu. "
I beg to differ. Many times I have installed Windows and have been unable to get the correct resolution for the attached monitor until I installed the OEM driver (that did NOT come with Windows).
And, we still haven't pinpointed this problem to the Intel driver - other distributions do not seem to have issues, only Ubuntu, so it might be something else.
OK. There does seem to be a problem for many people that I haven't encountered, and that wasn't seen in the beta or the RC. Someone must have goofed.
Perhaps a suggestion would be to revert to the RC until the bug is fixed, then update.
Edited 2009-11-03 11:21 UTC
RE[9]: Windows market share
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 3rd Nov 2009 11:40
in reply to "RE[8]: Windows market share"
Member since:2005-06-29
I beg to differ. Many times I have installed Windows and have been unable to get the correct resolution for the attached monitor until I installed the OEM driver (that did NOT come with Windows).
1. We were specifically talking about Windows 7. Windows 7 ships with all graphics drivers on the disc. On top of that, a lot of drivers are pulled from WU, and those have undergone testing to ensure that they work.
The Ubuntu team might want to take a few clues from that approach instead of just willy-nilly including drivers that fcuk up.
2. I fail to see what this has to do with the issue at hand. We were talking about included broken drivers - not about whether or not you have to download one.
OK. There does seem to be a problem for many people that I haven't encountered, and that wasn't seen in the beta or the RC. Someone must have goofed.
The problem was present in the betas and RC too. Check Google. It affected me there too.
Edited 2009-11-03 11:41 UTC
RE[8]: Windows market share
by boldingd on Wed 4th Nov 2009 16:43
in reply to "RE[7]: Windows market share"
Member since:2009-02-19
I have two ATI Radeon 3850's in SLI. I get my drivers from Windows Update. I have had to disable the sound output on the DVI ports (which I'm not using), otherwise many D3D games crash. Additionally, the machine is incapable of resuming from hibernation: I get corrupted displays and eventual kernel implosion. So, I have a Vista install, and the drivers shipped with it cause application failures and kernel crashes.
You are simply flat-out wrong. You're accusing Linux of being a horrible operating system for having a flaw that Windwos has too -- namely, that bad drivers can crash it. In the real Goddamned world, Windows is every bit as succeptable to poorly-implemented drivers as Linux is/
Member since:
2005-06-29
Apples and oranges.
We're comparing default installations, without added software. You will NOT find crappy drivers included in the default install of Windows 7 in the same way this crappy Intel driver is included in Ubuntu. And, we still haven't pinpointed this problem to the Intel driver - other distributions do not seem to have issues, only Ubuntu, so it might be something else.