Linked by Kroc Camen on Thu 5th Nov 2009 21:05 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y There's no right way to do it, only ideas that are better than others in certain situations. But if you had the opportunity to head up the design of a new OS, one to Put Things Right, one that could be radical enough to varnish out those UI/X bumps that have clung on for years, but practical enough to be used every day, what would you design? How would you handle application management? What about file types and compatibility? Where would you cherry pick the best bits from other OSes and where would you throw away tradition? I've tackled this challenge for myself and present (an unfinished idea): KrocOS (warning: HTML5 site, will display without CSS in IE/older browsers). OSnews Asks: What would make your perfect OS?
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Comment by cb88
by cb88 on Thu 5th Nov 2009 21:33 UTC
cb88
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2009-04-23

I have grown to like X11 the ability to remotely run a program and have it show up locally is extremely nice... however I dislike its quirks and general bloatiness

I like how BeOS/Haiku handles files/folders except when it concerns the whole spatial idea which I find silly for instance I navigate into a folder to leave that folder. I have to close the window I find this extremely backward. Thankfully it is optional on Haiku.

I somewhat agree about debranding of apps however I think that is overrated and should be reduced to all apps should share a common file structure interface and not use proprietary protocols. Mail could point to iTunes or Photos to Gqview etc... that is what we have defualts for.

I also thing that hardware shoudln't be hidden but should be displayed in an informative manner for instance Haiku drive icons (optionally) display capacity as a bar. I think that if you separate the user too far from the computer you are undermining the usability of the computer for the sake of simplicity.

I think haiku is the closest at the moment to being an ideal desktop OS except for hardware support and document interoperability. Rootless X11 would be nice too and would probably help to cover document compatibility by allowing quick and dirty ports of Linux/Unix document apps.

Edited 2009-11-05 21:33 UTC

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RE: Comment by cb88
by Kroc on Thu 5th Nov 2009 21:37 in reply to "Comment by cb88"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

What you mentioned about capacity is very true actually, something I had overlooked. But we do need to show this in a way that regular users will be able to understand and that power users won’t get annoyed at too.

Percentages / bars are not always a good way of showing it, because many users think that getting to 60% doesn’t leave them much _time_ left. They have no immediate understand of how much the capacity represents in time as they are used to progress bars and percentages moving very quickly. I always have to explain to users that 1. they have more space then they will ever use, and 2. As long as there’s at minimum 4-8 GB free, everything will be fine.

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RE[2]: Comment by cb88
by Moochman on Fri 6th Nov 2009 10:21 in reply to "RE: Comment by cb88"
Moochman Member since:
2005-07-06

Yes, this is actually something that annoys the hell out of me about Vista's drive representation. It not only shows percentage, but it turns RED when you get below something like 20% free space, even if you still have 16GB free! I have seen people become convinced that they are too low on disk space, even though that isn't really the case.

Edited 2009-11-06 10:23 UTC

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RE: Comment by cb88
by aliquis on Fri 6th Nov 2009 09:47 in reply to "Comment by cb88"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

I'm quite sure early versions of AmigaOS had this bar on drive icons showing the amount of space used/left to.

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RE: Comment by cb88
by bogomipz on Sat 7th Nov 2009 19:41 in reply to "Comment by cb88"
bogomipz Member since:
2005-07-11

I like how BeOS/Haiku handles files/folders except when it concerns the whole spatial idea which I find silly for instance I navigate into a folder to leave that folder. I have to close the window I find this extremely backward.

Try holding down the Option key while opening sub-folders. This also combines nicely with Command-Up/Down.

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