Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 2nd Nov 2009 23:59 UTC
Windows Windows 7 has been out and about for little over a week now, and as it turns out, Microsoft's new baby is doing relatively well. That is, according to the figures by NetApplications: Windows 7 already reached the 3% mark this weekend, and is already closing in on the 4% mark.
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RE[2]: Typical
by tomcat on Fri 6th Nov 2009 04:03 UTC in reply to "RE: Typical"
tomcat
Member since:
2006-01-06

Here's my experience:

- Take Netbook out of box
- Plug it in
- Turn it on
- Everything works


- Connect to corporate MS Exchange server for mail & calendar. FAIL.
- Run a decent post-1995 game. FAIL.
- Sync iPod/iPhone with iTunes. FAIL.
- Run Quicken. FAIL.

Oh, yeah ... everything "works"... unless you try to do something that's easily accomplished on a Mac or Windows.

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RE[3]: Typical
by WereCatf on Fri 6th Nov 2009 04:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Typical"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I know I shouldn't reply to an obvious troll, but I just so much dislike baseless FUD being spread around...

Connect to corporate MS Exchange server for mail & calendar. FAIL.

Atleast Evolution does sync with MS Exchange servers. I don't know about the other mail clients as I haven't tried any of them.

Run a decent post-1995 game. FAIL

Gee, there's quite a few post-1995 games listed on WineHQ which all seem to work just peachy.

Sync iPod/iPhone with iTunes. FAIL.

iTunes doesn't seem to work too well, but atleast Rhythmbox does sync with those.

Run Quicken. FAIL.

Quicken does actually work. http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=107

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RE[3]: Typical
by boldingd on Fri 6th Nov 2009 17:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Typical"
boldingd Member since:
2009-02-19

Wait, you mean Microsoft's software doesn't run unmodified on a different operating system? OH MY GOD! THAT'S INSANE! Clearly, every operating system should run every binary for every program compiled for every other operating system! I mean, obviously!
And it's totally the same for Mac OS X and Windows, right? I mean, people can just take the Amarok binaries from any random Linux distro and run them on Windows Vista's thorough, installed-by-default and foolproof POSIX compatability layer, right? Happens all the time! Surely, Linux distros are the only OS's on the planet that can't run any arbitrary damned binary image you hand them, regardless of its OS target.

Seriously, not that Linux is perfect, it obviously isn't, but it's just in no way a reasonable expectation to be able to take software written for Windows and run it (unmodified!) on Linux. That's crazy. Before WINE, nobody would've complained the Windows software didn't run on Linux, because nobody would've considered that a reasonable expectation in the first place. Moving to a different OS logically means being prepared to use different software. If you're locked in to a particular software package that isn't available on another OS, then don't you clearly can't change your OS platform -- but the absence of that software package on other OS's is not a flaw in those other OS's!

It makes about as much sense as if I tried to claim that OS X was garbage because I couldn't run Steam on it. Or, like I say, Amarok. It's just not a reasonable expectation in the first place: nobody expects every OS to have loaders and call-translation-layers for everybody else's binaries.

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RE[4]: Typical
by tomcat on Fri 6th Nov 2009 18:19 in reply to "RE[3]: Typical"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Wait, you mean Microsoft's software doesn't run unmodified on a different operating system?


You're missing the point. People WANT to do all of these things, and they either can't do it at all under Linux -- or they have to jump through so many technical hoops with WINE that it just isn't feasible for the average person. So, where does that leave them? It forces them to use alternatives which require unnecessary compromise, when they could simply be using OS X or Windows, in the first place. That's the fundamental truth which is restraining Linux growth.

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RE[3]: Typical
by archiesteel on Sat 7th Nov 2009 18:58 in reply to "RE[2]: Typical"
archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

Actually, I have no problem connecting to Exchange. Tomcat FAIL.

No one in their right mind would play games on a Netbook anyway. As a video games designer, I play on consoles, that's where it's at anyway. Tomcat FAIL.

Who cares about iTunes? I sync my iPod with Banshee (or Amarok, it's still a toss-up between the two). Tomcat FAIL.

I don't use Quicken anymore, but if I needed to it runs seamlessly in Crossover Office. Tomcat FAIL.

I see your irrational hatred of Linux is still going strong. I'd try to explain to you how pathetically juvenile that is, but I'm afraid you're too far gone to listen to reason. That's really sad.

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