Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 5th Nov 2009 23:05 UTC
Linux As we all know, Mac OS X has support for what is called 'fat binaries'. These are binaries that can carry code for for instance multiple architectures - in the case of the Mac, PowerPC and x86. Ryan Gordon was working on an implementation of fat binaries for Linux - but due to the conduct of the Linux maintainers, Gordon has halted the effort.
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regomodo
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2009-01-23

I get the feeling Thom think's Drepper is representative of all os-devs. Drepper's response about why somebody would think one second about fatElf was harsh.

I don't understand why the fatElf dev spent all the time and effort before notifying the kerenl/glibc team to see if it was actually a good idea/needed.

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i92guboj Member since:
2009-07-16

Drepper has always been that way, I am not going into the "he has the reason or not" debate because I really don't care.

But the kernel team certainly didn't respond in a harsh way at all.

About why did him go that far without consensus, well, that's certainly an interesting point. But even then, if Ryan Gordon really cares about this, there's nothing stopping him from working in the project. There are *lots* of projects that relate to the kernel in many ways, and they continue their way without being in the Linus tree. If he can really show how useful this is, and he gain adepts, the thing might change. But it's ridiculous to go thinking that, because your code is useful to you and two other persons, it is going to get included into the kernel source tree.

If you look at the ML you will also see very valid points about some basic tools needing porting to work with this. It's not just the kernel and glibc (if that wasn't enough), it's the kernel level tools to debug and monitor, the debuggers, profilers, and lots of tools that in turn rely on these and might need also some tunning.

This definitely needs to probe its usefulness and it has also to probe being bug free because it taints basically every single foundation of a linux system you can think of.

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