There's no right way to do it, only ideas that are better than others in certain situations. But if you had the opportunity to head up the design of a new OS, one to Put Things Right, one that could be radical enough to varnish out those UI/X bumps that have clung on for years, but practical enough to be used every day, what would you design? How would you handle application management? What about file types and compatibility? Where would you cherry pick the best bits from other OSes and where would you throw away tradition? I've tackled this challenge for myself and present (an unfinished idea): KrocOS (warning: HTML5 site, will display without CSS in IE/older browsers). OSnews Asks: What would make your perfect OS?
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Member since:2005-11-02
I wont repeat myself further, but I will just say this.
Hardware vendors can and do release specs without harming their business. Open drivers are better for many reasons, both technical and social, and in kernel drivers are even better than that. There is no need for proprietary drivers.
You and others insist on arguing the benefits of proprietary drivers. If you would like to talk about benefits of a stable ABI that do not involve supporting the evil that is proprietary software I would be happy to listen.
There is no benefit to any proprietary software. Everything ought to be Free software. This movement was started by idealists and will not be perverted while we exist. Do not disguise your motives; if you mean to support proprietary software at the expense of Free software, so be it. You will find few supporters in the community. Do not pretend that there is some technical merit to a stable ABI.
Member since:2006-01-06
Hardware vendors can and do release specs without harming their business. Open drivers are better for many reasons, both technical and social, and in kernel drivers are even better than that. There is no need for proprietary drivers.
You and others insist on arguing the benefits of proprietary drivers. If you would like to talk about benefits of a stable ABI that do not involve supporting the evil that is proprietary software I would be happy to listen.
There is no benefit to any proprietary software. Everything ought to be Free software. This movement was started by idealists and will not be perverted while we exist. Do not disguise your motives; if you mean to support proprietary software at the expense of Free software, so be it. You will find few supporters in the community. Do not pretend that there is some technical merit to a stable ABI.
When you refer to proprietary software as "evil", it's pretty clear that you have a distorted sense of reality. There's no reason why open source and proprietary software can't live side-by-side. Neither is "evil" in any sense, and demonizing either is childish and short-sighted.
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2006-01-06
You're looking at this all wrong. Hardware manufacturers aren't at war with Linux. They want a symbiotic relationship with OS developers that allows them to sell as much hardware as possible and protect their intellectual property. Microsoft has been able to make this work because they provide a stable driver platform for the hardware manufacturers to work with, and Microsoft doesn't require that they disclose their secret sauce, as you clearly want them to do. Hardware manufacturers *want* to ship drivers with your distros. They really do. But you're making it impossible -- or, at best, extremely difficult -- for them to do it by constantly shifting the ABIs and thus requiring source code disclosure.
Let me ask you something: If you find yourself doing something over and over again, and things aren't getting better, should you keep doing the same thing again and again (and repeat the same mistakes), or should you try something different? I would argue that Linux is going to get far better driver support if it accedes to the business requirements of hardware manufacturers and works with them.
I do understand that there are many people who prefer to look at this issue through an ideological lens, but I don't think it's reasonable to make all-or-nothing demands of hardware manufacturers without giving anything back. Give them a stable ABI. Allow them to ship binary drivers and protect their intellectual property. If you did this, the whole issue of not being able to play DVDs, not use the latest graphics hardware, and many other issues would simply disappear, and level the playing field with Windows.
But I fear that that won't happen, as long as you listen to people like Stallman, who really don't care about commercial interests.