Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 7th Nov 2009 14:33 UTC, submitted by J!NX
Debian and its clones Debian GNU/Hurd can now be installed a little easier. "This month Philip Charles created a new installation CD, the L series, for the Hurd, which brings us a big step towards installing the Hurd from the Hurd (without the need of a Linux-based installer). If you enjoy testing stuff, please give it a try."
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RE[3]: Hurd is coming soon!
by Tuishimi on Sat 7th Nov 2009 20:49 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Hurd is coming soon!"
Tuishimi
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2005-07-06

Not by much.

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RE[4]: Hurd is coming soon!
by Soulbender on Sun 8th Nov 2009 06:02 in reply to "RE[3]: Hurd is coming soon!"
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2005-08-18

Only if you don't consider twice as long to be much.

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RE[5]: Hurd is coming soon!
by Tuishimi on Sun 8th Nov 2009 06:10 in reply to "RE[4]: Hurd is coming soon!"
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2005-07-06

LOL! Well, 10 years vs. 20 years sort of melds into "just a heck of a long time" to me.

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RE[4]: Hurd is coming soon!
by KugelKurt on Sun 8th Nov 2009 16:13 in reply to "RE[3]: Hurd is coming soon!"
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2005-07-06

Development of Haiku (as well as the NewOS kernel) begun in 2001.
OTOH, the first attempt to write a GNU kernel was in 1986. If you include the development time of the GNU userspace tools, it even started in 1984.

I could argue how Haiku even builds a complete desktop environment -- something that's totally out of scope for Hurd, but pictures say more than 1000 words.
So compare Hurd: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HURD_Live_CD.png
to Haiku: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Haiku_2008-02-19.png

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RE[5]: Hurd is coming soon!
by Tuishimi on Sun 8th Nov 2009 16:23 in reply to "RE[4]: Hurd is coming soon!"
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2005-07-06

First, I was a heavy BeOS user and I had Haiku running in a VM. Second, you CAN boot into X-Windows/Window Manager in Hurd, like so many of the old unix-like systems you have to set a flag for it to start up automatically.

Third, since I was a heavy BeOS user, and they got squashed by Apple and MS, I've been waiting for what seems an eternity for Haiku.

It's all very subjective. As I tried to intimate in my previous post, 8,9,10,20 years all seem like a LOOOOONG time, my kids have gone from zygotes to relatively large speaking, reasoning creatures in the amount of time it has taken for an alpha version of Haiku to arrive. Do not misunderstand me, I hold great hope for Haiku (check my other posts on OS News) and am a big fan, and donate money to them.

I have maybe another 30 years left on this planet. I'd love to have a released version that I could do my actual work on as a daily OS. You brought up the Haiku comparison, I'm telling you to some people (ie. me) it is still a long time - no matter how you slice it.

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