Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Nov 2009 21:29 UTC
3D News, GL, DirectX Over the past few years, there have been persistent rumours that NVIDIA, the graphics chip maker, was working on an x86 chip to compete with Intel and AMD. Recently, these rumours gained some traction, but NVIDIA's CEO just shot them down, and denied the company will enter the x86 processor market.
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RE[2]: Comment by flanque
by CaptainN- on Mon 9th Nov 2009 22:46 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by flanque"
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The first time you see and AMD or Intel CPU with integrated graphics beat the pants off of an add-in card, I'd bet you'll be convinced.

If not, you are probably a member of a very tiny minority (and shrinking) of the enthusiast market that still upgrades your computer part by part over time.

I used to be that guy, but gave it up a while ago, because of the staggering pace of new tech. And the fact that if you time your upgrades to about a year and a half or so after the consoles refresh, you don't really need to stay on the treadmill. ;-)

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RE[3]: Comment by flanque
by UZ64 on Tue 10th Nov 2009 02:32 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by flanque"
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2006-12-05

The first time you see and AMD or Intel CPU with integrated graphics beat the pants off of an add-in card, I'd bet you'll be convinced.

Only under very specific circumstances. And I can't see this happening for a hell of a long time. As integrated graphics are now, they're still too weak... but the biggest problem is that I'm just not a fan of the whole "shared system memory" thing as I said. Plus we're only at dual-cores so far, and that's not near enough for me to start embracing onboard components. [Don't bother mentioning quad-core... yes, I know they're out, but those are still priced high last I checked.]

If not, you are probably a member of a very tiny minority (and shrinking) of the enthusiast market that still upgrades your computer part by part over time.

Somewhat, but not quite. I just believe in the philosophy of a hardware component being designed to do one thing well, and other components (with their own dedicated memory and onboard processors) to do their own specific tasks well, offloading the extra burden on each other. Maybe eight cores will solve this (maybe...), but at the same time I expect operating systems and software in general to start making better use of multiple cores as well, which will--again--make it better to have separate, distinct, specialized processors for video and audio processing.

As it is, I will probably hold this opinion for several years to come. Having the absolute most powerful GPU is not my focus; at least not any more. I realized raw graphical power was a pointless waste of money years ago, and instead go for something that has plenty of power for what I need, and then some (but not quite top-of-the-line). My focus is getting the best use out of my processing power... which means not offloading everything under the sun onto the CPU, so that I can have it actually process what I want: the programs. I don't want graphics and audio to get in the way of that.

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RE[4]: Comment by flanque
by flanque on Tue 10th Nov 2009 04:46 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by flanque"
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2005-12-15

Plus we're only at dual-cores so far, and that's not near enough for me to start embracing onboard components. [Don't bother mentioning quad-core... yes, I know they're out, but those are still priced high last I checked.]


You should look at the i5 CPUs. They're very good value and pack a performance punch above some i7 CPUs.

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RE[4]: Comment by flanque
by cerbie on Tue 10th Nov 2009 16:29 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by flanque"
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2006-01-02

[Don't bother mentioning quad-core... yes, I know they're out, but those are still priced high last I checked.]
They start at $100, these days.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010340...
(the a tag works for preview, but not post, so...)

Edited 2009-11-10 16:30 UTC

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