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Vista/Windows 7 - 2GB ?
by Lennie on Tue 10th Nov 2009 09:44 UTC
Lennie
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2007-09-22

I still don't understand why you'd need 2GB of memory just to run an operating system and 'every day'-applications. This is not just an OEM-problem.

EDIT: Maybe I should clarify, on my Ubuntu 64-bit machine I have 4GB of RAM, but when I open a terminal and type free it says, it uses 1GB. About 500MB for kernel and userspace and about 500MB for filesystem-cache, of which part is probably memory-mapped-files which were put their by readahead. Just like Vista does.

So where does it all go ?

Edited 2009-11-10 10:00 UTC

RE: Vista/Windows 7 - 2GB ?
by Lennie on Tue 10th Nov 2009 10:33 in reply to "Vista/Windows 7 - 2GB ?"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Not that '1GB minimum' is impressive. ;-)

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RE[2]: Vista/Windows 7 - 2GB ?
by Devi1903 on Tue 10th Nov 2009 12:14 in reply to "RE: Vista/Windows 7 - 2GB ?"
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2009-11-05

I would also like to know where it all goes. I mean i think there is no doubt that windows 7 utilises the ram much more efficiently and is far far more responsive than vista. But why it needs that much in the first place??

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RE: Vista/Windows 7 - 2GB ?
by Brendan on Tue 10th Nov 2009 13:47 in reply to "Vista/Windows 7 - 2GB ?"
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2005-11-16

Hi,

I've got the opposite problem. I've got 12 GiB of RAM, and when I type "free" (after running for 8 days) it says that 9.5 GiB of that RAM isn't being used for disk caches or anything else that could improve performance; and is therefore wasted.

After running for long enough a very good OS should say "almost no RAM free" to let you know that the OS is doing everything it can.

-Brendan

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RE[2]: Vista/Windows 7 - 2GB ?
by Devi1903 on Tue 10th Nov 2009 13:55 in reply to "RE: Vista/Windows 7 - 2GB ?"
Devi1903 Member since:
2009-11-05

I don't know of any OS that would use 12GB of ram just by running. You don't think this is a bit over kill? I mean maybe in a server with a lot of clients.

I have a server running ldap, samba, nfs, postfix & squid perfectly with 2GB of ram. Only got 70 clients though.

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RE: Vista/Windows 7 - 2GB ?
by cerbie on Wed 11th Nov 2009 04:52 in reply to "Vista/Windows 7 - 2GB ?"
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2006-01-02

1GB is more than enough, until you run bloated apps. I like some bloated apps. Most people use bloated apps, whether they like them or not ;) . My every day applications include OOo/KOffice, Firefox, the devil that is Flash, etc..

It actually works impressively well on my P3 1.13, 384MB RAM, Thinkpad.

Minimum requirements ain't what they used to be.

The problem with Vista was that it was very hard to get it scaling down in base resources. 7 is far more balanced, in that regard.

Edited 2009-11-11 04:54 UTC

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