Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Nov 2009 13:20 UTC, submitted by SReilly
Gnome As most of you will know, the GNOME team is hard at work on GNOME 3.0, the first major overhaul of the platform since 2002. The release of GNOME 3.0 was originally planned for March 2010, but it has now been pushed back for six months to September 2010.
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RE[2]: Comment by lithium
by haakin on Wed 11th Nov 2009 14:28 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by lithium"
haakin
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2008-12-18

Why don't we just release 3.0.0 now? It doesn't matter if it's incomplete, buggy, and unfinished at this stage of development


Yes, good idea. It worked so well for KDE4...

:-P

Javier

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RE[3]: Comment by lithium
by CapEnt on Wed 11th Nov 2009 14:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by lithium"
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2005-12-18

Believe or not, this strategy worked quite well! (for KDE at least)

The rushed release of KDE4.0 attracted quite a number of developers to it by providing a clear look of their new development path, and avoided it to become a vaporware after numerous delays, refreshing the interest on it.

Opensource development is all about momentum, if it looses, the development stops and the software never gets released due the lack of stimulus. KDE4.0 provided a base development environment for the developers outside the core of KDE project to port and test their applications, and provided them with something new, albeit bugged, to play.

Edited 2009-11-11 14:54 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by lithium
by haakin on Wed 11th Nov 2009 15:08 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by lithium"
haakin Member since:
2008-12-18

Believe or not, this strategy worked quite well! (for KDE at least)

The rushed release of KDE4.0 attracted quite a number of developers


Maybe from the developer point of view it was a success. But for the point of view of a humble user, it was a complete disaster.

In my case, I've been using KDE since KDE 2. I stoped using KDE six months ago when I started to work with KDE4. Suddenly Xfce or even Gnome were a better choice for me. I don't think that I'll be a KDE user again in the next years.

Anyway I wish that the Gnome 3 release is a huge success.

Javier

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RE[4]: Comment by lithium
by sbergman27 on Wed 11th Nov 2009 15:12 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by lithium"
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2005-07-24

The rushed release of KDE4.0 attracted quite a number of developers to it by providing a clear look of their new development path,

Something that calling it "KDE 4 Developer Preview: A Clear Look at Our New Development Path" would have done just as well, without being deceptive.

If necessary, aand avoided it to become a vaporware after numerous delays, refreshing the interest on it.

Vaporware? The code was already out there for developers to see, use, and plan for. What they did was to try to trick users and distros into using noxious vapor^W^Walpha code. And that *did* work. Though I would not call it a success. Did I hear someone say that the distros were free to make their own decisions? Well... we saw how that worked out.

Opensource development is all about momentum, if it looses, the development stops and the software never gets released due the lack of stimulus.

Oh, please. FUD much? Was the KDE4 project so close to death that the remaining devs had no choice but to resort to deception in order to resuscitate their withering project?

KDE4.0 provided a base development environment for the developers outside the core of KDE project to port and test their applications, and provided them with something new, albeit bugged, to play.

And a developer preview wouldn't have given them that? KDE 4.0.0 was intended to trick the community into serving the KDE devs' needs by unwittingly testing incomplete, alpha quality code when they wouldn't have had KDE 4.0.0 been labeled honestly.

Edited 2009-11-11 15:15 UTC

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