Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Nov 2009 13:20 UTC, submitted by SReilly
Gnome As most of you will know, the GNOME team is hard at work on GNOME 3.0, the first major overhaul of the platform since 2002. The release of GNOME 3.0 was originally planned for March 2010, but it has now been pushed back for six months to September 2010.
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RE[6]: Comment by lithium
by haakin on Wed 11th Nov 2009 16:06 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by lithium"
haakin
Member since:
2008-12-18

I waited until KDE 4.1 was released before start using KDE 4. According to the press release (http://kde.org/announcements/4.1/):

"July 29, 2008. The KDE Community today released KDE 4.1.0. This release is the second feature release of the KDE 4 series, sporting new applications and newly developed features on top of the Pillars of KDE4. KDE 4.1 is the first KDE4 release to contain the Personal Information Management suite KDE-PIM with its E-Mail client KMail, the planner KOrganizer, Akregator, the RSS feed reader, KNode, the newsgroup reader and many more components integrated into the Kontact shell. Furthermore, the new desktop shell Plasma, introduced in KDE 4.0, has matured to the point where it can replace the KDE 3 shell for most casual users."

But it wasn't ready for users like me. And I'm a regular user, nothing extraordinary. I don't see the need to exaggerate in a Free software press release.

I just hope that the Gnome developer team has learnt one lesson or two and they don't commit the same mistakes.

Edited 2009-11-11 16:09 UTC

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RE[7]: Comment by lithium
by KugelKurt on Wed 11th Nov 2009 16:24 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by lithium"
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

Strage, how you missed the little word "most".

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RE[8]: Comment by lithium
by r_a_trip on Thu 12th Nov 2009 10:59 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by lithium"
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

Strange, how hardcore KDE fans keep trying to rewrite the disastrous release history of KDE4. KDE 4.0 to 4.2 was frought with end-user problems. KDE4.3 was where things started to gel.

The problem has never been the technology of KDE4. It has been the PR management. It was handled poorly. No problem, people make mistakes. What is a problem though is the occasional "It never happened" attitude from some KDE4 fans.

We were all there when it happened, remember?

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RE[7]: Comment by lithium
by sbenitezb on Wed 11th Nov 2009 19:46 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by lithium"
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

I just hope that the Gnome developer team has learnt one lesson or two and they don't commit the same mistakes.


They will commit an even more horrendous mistake: gnome shell and further integration of monkey-mono shit into gnome 3.0. Good luck with that!

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RE[8]: Comment by lithium
by Delgarde on Wed 11th Nov 2009 20:01 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by lithium"
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

further integration of monkey-mono shit into gnome 3.0. Good luck with that!


What's Mono got to do with anything? Nobody is talking about integrating Mono into Gnome, except maybe the Mon-haters like yourself. Sure, there are some people writing Gnome apps with it, but the core Gnome people aren't even talking about it.

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RE[8]: Comment by lithium
by sobkas on Wed 11th Nov 2009 21:00 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by lithium"
sobkas Member since:
2005-12-13

After I started to use Gnome Shell I don't think I will be able to work again with "Old Gnome". New look is just more useful.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ROYCjxde4tQ/Svsf2PCGy0I/AAAAAAAAA1M/QauqySPdj...

Edited 2009-11-11 21:04 UTC

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RE[7]: Comment by lithium
by segedunum on Thu 12th Nov 2009 01:07 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by lithium"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

But it wasn't ready for users like me. And I'm a regular user, nothing extraordinary. I don't see the need to exaggerate in a Free software press release.

Why not? Gnome has tended to do it for years. Whatever did happen to 10x10 I wonder? Where is the code for that?

So you decided to ditch what worked for you in the name of a press release, jumped into bed with a distribution that doesn't test its releases other than to do some vague version bumping (which is all of them) and you're bitching to the high heavens about it?

I just hope that the Gnome developer team has learnt one lesson or two and they don't commit the same mistakes.

Were you not around for Gnome 2.0's launch?

The problem is if they don't learn from KDE and have the courage to make the jump at some point as they did, and actually come up with a GTK 3 that would make Gnome 3 actually worth something, then Gnome 3 will merely be an inadequate version bump to try and give the impression that they're not seriously falling behind.

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