Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Nov 2009 20:40 UTC
Windows Okay, so this is new. When it comes to graphical user interfaces, everyone is copying everyone, but you'll always find supporters of platform Abc claiming platform Xyz is stealing from them - and vice versa. Mac supporters have often stated that Vista and Windows 7 were copying from Apple, and according to Microsoft's partner group manager, Simon Aldous, this is true. Wait, what?
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wargum
Member since:
2006-12-15

I don't quite get how people can actually claim that MS didn't mimic OS X with Windows 7.

1) Let's look at the new Taskbar:

The concept behind the Dock is to provide an app starter with an app switcher. This concept was exclusive to the Mac. No, these fancy Dock look-alikes for Win and Linux are NOT THE SAME, they are just stupid app starters with no further logic.

Now, Microsoft has adopted the exact same concept: Combine the app starter with the switcher. But wait, the Dock can do more:
- Graphical indication of running apps
- status indication through Dock icon manipulation like number of emails received or progress bars in Toast
- Context menues on icons to control running apps
- Reposition applications
- Apps not yet in the Dock appear on the right and can be pinned permanently

Microsoft implemented 'em all the EXACT SAME WAY! Did they improve it? YES! Jump lists with recent documents or the windows switching (which Snow Leopard copied now) are prominent examples. Still: How can anybody possibly say that MS didn't copy OS X?

2) The "Show Desktop" functionality is pretty much the same as active corners with Exposé's show desktop feature which OS X has since Tiger.

3) Widgets are in a separate space. MS did the same thing now by restricting their Z coordinate to the desktop layer, all applications and their windows are always painted on top.

And then there are the things MS already did/started in Vista, like...

4) Hit keyboard shortcut to activate desktop search, start typing and view your results live. Like David Pogue put it: The only difference is that MS did it in the bottom left compared to the top right in OS X since Tiger.

5) Menuless windows.

6) Explorer windows with a nice search field in the upper right corner.


I could go on, but this is enough material for now. You may reconsider you opinion or come up with some good arguments to convince me that MS did not heavily copy OS X. And don't think I'm bitter about it. They copied good, this time and the user can only benefit.

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

The concept behind the Dock is to provide an app starter with an app switcher. This concept was exclusive to the Mac. No, these fancy Dock look-alikes for Win and Linux are NOT THE SAME, they are just stupid app starters with no further logic.


I stopped reading here, the Nextstep Dock predates the OS X dock. the CDE dock predates both. Every GUI needs an app starter and an app switcher. The Windows 98 taskbar fills this bill (app launcher is start menu and quicklaunch, app switcher is the taskbar) The concepts in the Dock certainly were not exclusive to the Mac.

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wargum Member since:
2006-12-15

OK, the Dock as we know it in OS X has been influenced mostly by the NeXT stuff, which is hardly suprising. Still, OS X was, up until Windows 7, the only CURRENT SYSTEM of relevance that has this concept it has. And Apple did indeed improve the functionality of predecessors. Heck, they even patented it 10 years ago, if I remember correctly.

So, besides acting as the wise guy, you should have read on. MS copied pretty much EVERY ASPECT that makes the Dock the Dock, they hardly missed anything. Don't you think?

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