Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Nov 2009 13:20 UTC, submitted by SReilly
Gnome As most of you will know, the GNOME team is hard at work on GNOME 3.0, the first major overhaul of the platform since 2002. The release of GNOME 3.0 was originally planned for March 2010, but it has now been pushed back for six months to September 2010.
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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Fri 13th Nov 2009 01:41 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

Yes. The problem with all of that, and the much talked about move to DeviceKit


DeviceKit is no more, the ultimate move was actually to eventually migrate to libudev/gudev now that libudev is LGPL licensed. DeviceKit was only a stop gap measure.

is that the distributors who are generally involved in Gnome development simply don't want to invest time and money in anything new. There just isn't the wherewithall to do it.


Considering they were the ones who stated that they want the HAL dependency removed from the GNOME stack - I find it rather stupid stating one thing and allocating no resources to back it up.

I mean, who can blame them? Novell and Red Hat just don't make money from work on desktops other than the bare minimum for where people use Linux workstations, and any new work that needs to be done on Gnome or anything graphically goes to the bottom of the pile. Havoc Pennington isn't around any more to co-ordinate things so I think he's a big miss. As for Ubuntu, there just isn't much in the way of Gnome code being committed, despite the hype.


The move from HAL to libudev isn't just merely a GNOME issue given the system management tools that sit onto of Linux to make administration easier and thus lower the training and employment costs of linux admins. So it is in their best interest to clean things up.

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RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by segedunum on Fri 13th Nov 2009 10:16 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai"
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2005-07-06

DeviceKit is no more, the ultimate move was actually to eventually migrate to libudev/gudev now that libudev is LGPL licensed. DeviceKit was only a stop gap measure.

Bugger me. I've lost all track then.

Considering they were the ones who stated that they want the HAL dependency removed from the GNOME stack - I find it rather stupid stating one thing and allocating no resources to back it up.

It's happened before. They do something that has implications for the desktop side and then just don't put the effort in.

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RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Fri 13th Nov 2009 10:53 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

It's happened before. They do something that has implications for the desktop side and then just don't put the effort in.


Yeap, and the worse part, it isn't just a small transition; it is a massive leap forward if they moved to libudev nice and cleanly. Ever since they introduced HAL it has been a downward spiral to craptacular problems. Fedora 11 has been the first version of Linux I have found that didn't royally suck since finally moving away from HAL when it comes to handling storage devices. Since moving away from HAL, it has been reliable and each move away from it has improved reliability with each release. Confirming, much to the denial of the HAL developer, than HAL was the single vector for all of life's problems.

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