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Microsoft Thom's down with flu, so to avoid moving a lot of interesting news to pg.2, I am creating a combined item here covering a number of Microsoft related news items submitted to us.
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RE[4]: Massive?
by James.Hoving on Sun 15th Nov 2009 13:24 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Massive?"
James.Hoving
Member since:
2009-11-14

I just tested it with Aero on. The problem is still there but the color on the two "selected" items are different. It still report the wrong item (the out of focus one) at the bottom of the explorer windows so if you rely on that and not the color you are still fed. (BTW. Who runs Aero on a server?)

Of cause you can work around it, of cause you can use filecommander or you can use a cli for all you file managing. But does that make this OK?

There IS a major focus bug in the new explorer, and ppl WILL lose data over it.

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RE[5]: Massive?
by martini on Sun 15th Nov 2009 14:09 in reply to "RE[4]: Massive?"
martini Member since:
2006-01-23

If you check the video.
On 0:47 he creates "New Folder" inside "New Folder".

On 1:12 He selects the parent "New Folder" that has the "New Folder" child and the .txt files.

It is not a bug. He deleted the parent folder. It is a "I have the same folder name and subfolder name" User Error.

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RE[6]: Massive?
by James.Hoving on Sun 15th Nov 2009 14:31 in reply to "RE[5]: Massive?"
James.Hoving Member since:
2009-11-14

Watch the video again and you will see what the problem is.

(edit. The problem is that the explorer shows both entry's as being in focus. It is true that you get the file that has the actual focus in the "do you want to delete" dialog. But I'm sure it does happen that ppl just press enter when it pops up. Any way, it doesn't lessen the bug that the explorer is confused about what to report to the user. The real problem is that the explorer has turned into an ergonomical nightmare with more focus on looking cool than on being a good tool for file handling.)

It is odd that the some ppl think the problem is that ppl don't take it for granted that Windows is a pile of crap and work accordingly. Microsoft have been around for some time now and its odd if you have to treat there bigger product as if it was an alfa release.

Edited 2009-11-15 14:41 UTC

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RE[5]: Massive?
by grat on Mon 16th Nov 2009 05:39 in reply to "RE[4]: Massive?"
grat Member since:
2006-02-02

Who runs Aero on a server?)


Who does irrevocable file operations on a server?

There IS a major focus bug in the new explorer, and ppl WILL lose data over it.


Unless focus is changing without you clicking on things, it's not a bug, it's how it's designed. I couldn't get focus to change on just a mouseover, and I would expect the behavior you got from clicking where you clicked.

It could be slightly more obvious what's going on, but bottom line is, if you're going to shift-delete files on a server, you had better know EXACTLY what you're doing.

You are essentially complaining that Windows did what you told it to do, rather than what you wanted it to do.

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RE[6]: Massive?
by Soulbender on Mon 16th Nov 2009 06:18 in reply to "RE[5]: Massive?"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Unless focus is changing without you clicking on things, it's not a bug, it's how it's designed


No, but Explorer saying it will remove one thing and then go ahead and remove something else, that is bug and not just a small one.

You are essentially complaining that Windows did what you told it to do, rather than what you wanted it to


Did you watch the video? Explorer clearly prompted for removing "New Folder" and then just want ahead and removed everything in the folder that *contained* "New Folder".

Edited 2009-11-16 06:20 UTC

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