Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 16th Nov 2009 19:48 UTC
Apple "Continued issues with the App Store approval process are prompting developers to shun the platform entirely. Though there are tens of thousands of other developers pumping out over 100000 iPhone apps, will continued migration away from iPhone development result in less quality software for the platform? Worse yet, will users even care?"
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What a joke Thom
by tyrione on Tue 17th Nov 2009 00:06 UTC
tyrione
Member since:
2005-11-21

Respected developer turns into a stream of respected developers?

Get real.

The days of easy money on the iPhone are reaching it's peak.

Larger scale developers [truly respected developers] are working on a variety of apps for the iPhone to add a tier to their traditional core solutions.

Glad you cross posted this useless Arstechnica blog about Hewitt--Mr. Firebug.

Talk to me when someone actually writes something more than an interface to a Web App.

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RE: What a joke Thom
by TechGeek on Tue 17th Nov 2009 03:32 in reply to "What a joke Thom"
TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

Actually, if you read the arstechnica article, there were three well known devs who recently decided they had enough. Apple treats its devs like crap. Thats just the way its going to be apparently.

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RE[2]: What a joke Thom
by mrhasbean on Tue 17th Nov 2009 04:04 in reply to "RE: What a joke Thom"
mrhasbean Member since:
2006-04-03

Actually, if you read the arstechnica article, there were three well known devs who recently decided they had enough. Apple treats its devs like crap. Thats just the way its going to be apparently.


Three out of how many? Look we all know there are issues with the approval process, some of them though are in reality unrealistic expectations from devs themselves. While I like the concept of market approval it simply cannot work. The iPhone is in too many countries and rogue apps could very easily in some of those countries wrack up a $50k bill for the user. While that user would certainly then be able to mod the app down it wouldn't fix their $50k bill.

WRT the approval process itself, there have been a lot of good suggestions made on fixing it, but again, have you ever tried to move a bulldozer with a toothpick? I really don't think Apple know how to fix this problem at the moment, and none of us really know if they even want to. Thom and Co will tell you it's their culture and they'll never change, others will stick their head in the sand and claim there is no problem while the sane people will realise that there is a problem but any fix for it will likely piss other people off anyway and will take quite some time to implement. If devs get the shits and leave in the mean time it's not going to make Apple cry or put any more resources into fixing the perceived problem than they already are, that's the way it is, get over it.

At the end of the day Devs will want to be where the market share is, we just have to look at Windows for that, and while Microsoft treat their devs pretty well these days it wasn't always the case...

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RE: What a joke Thom
by Tuishimi on Tue 17th Nov 2009 06:09 in reply to "What a joke Thom"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

People really mod people down because of tone these days. I think what Tyrione said is at least partially valid. What was he modded down for?

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RE[2]: What a joke Thom
by SANGEKi on Tue 17th Nov 2009 07:25 in reply to "RE: What a joke Thom"
SANGEKi Member since:
2006-11-30

Tone.

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RE[2]: What a joke Thom
by molnarcs on Tue 17th Nov 2009 09:27 in reply to "RE: What a joke Thom"
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

white teeth

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RE[2]: What a joke Thom
by testman on Tue 17th Nov 2009 22:40 in reply to "RE: What a joke Thom"
testman Member since:
2007-10-15

Thom

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RE: What a joke Thom
by memson on Tue 17th Nov 2009 12:22 in reply to "What a joke Thom"
memson Member since:
2006-01-01

Mr Hewitt pretty much left because he got his knuckles wrapped for using private API elements. This isn't being reported anywhere, but it is most def in his Three20 library, and therefore the Facebook App. A fe developers using his library recently got the same treatment by Apple, and I believe this will be what sparked his "leaving".

http://groups.google.com/group/three20/browse_thread/thread/e4514ae...

http://developers.enormego.com/view/rejected_for_using_uitouch

http://tweetmeme.com/story/258750622/heads-up-apple-store-rejection...

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