Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Nov 2009 17:45 UTC
Google Okay, so it's not an actual release as Arrington predicted last week, but Google will indeed take the wraps off its Chrome OS tomorrow. The company will hold an event tomorrow at its company headquarters in Mountain View, California, where it will unveil its plans for the operating system. Update: An OSNews reader has uncovered possible evidence that Chrome OS uses X, Clutter, and Slim.
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RE: Something I bumped into
by vivainio on Wed 18th Nov 2009 19:28 UTC in reply to "Something I bumped into"
vivainio
Member since:
2008-12-26

And to elaborate those links for the illiterate, the interesting parts are:

- It uses X
- Clutter! Does this mean they are foregoing Gtk+ altogether? Perhaps they don't use the current Chromium UI at all, and just use Clutter directly?
- It will use this login manager:

http://slim.berlios.de/

- Anyone know what "hostpad" is? Any chance this could be the "desktop shell"?

In any case, if that list is what they are using from Linux, it wildly deviates from the run-of-the-mill Linux distros. And it's not unlike the Litl Easel system.

Edited 2009-11-18 19:35 UTC

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RE[2]: Something I bumped into
by elanthis on Wed 18th Nov 2009 19:55 in reply to "RE: Something I bumped into"
elanthis Member since:
2007-02-17

Clutter does not replace gtk as a toolkit. Clutter offers a nice canvas-like scene graph but no traditional GUI widgets. So unless google implemented a whole new toolkit in top of clutter chances are they are using gtk with clutter.

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vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

Clutter does not replace gtk as a toolkit. Clutter offers a nice canvas-like scene graph but no traditional GUI widgets. So unless google implemented a whole new toolkit in top of clutter chances are they are using gtk with clutter.


I didn't see Gtk+ in the "Credits" link, that't where I came up with the conclusion.

IIUC Chromium doesn't really use Gtk "widgets" either in the rendering area (it's only used for the menus/decoration/dialogs), possibly Chromium is providing all the "widgets" for the OS.

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RE[3]: Something I bumped into
by hyriand on Thu 19th Nov 2009 08:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Something I bumped into"
hyriand Member since:
2006-04-03

There is however 'nbtk'(Netbook Toolkit) which is a toolkit on top of clutter (to be renamed to 'mx' iirc).

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RE[2]: Something I bumped into
by kragil on Wed 18th Nov 2009 20:05 in reply to "RE: Something I bumped into"
kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

Very interesting. Great find.

It just seems to be Moblin+Chrome.

Linux, Conman, X, Clutter, GTK etc is just Moblin.

Over at LWN I read that the kernel teams for Android and Chrome OS are very different, so it seems highly unlikely that Dalvik and Android will be part of Chrome OS.(Android depends on a lot of out of tree kernel patches)

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RE[2]: Something I bumped into
by Adam S on Wed 18th Nov 2009 20:11 in reply to "RE: Something I bumped into"
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

This doesn't "prove" anything. Maybe some of the components are based off of one of these programs. Maybe it contains some of the code. Maybe it it used in a non-standard way.

I'm just saying, this isn't proof for me.

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RE[3]: Something I bumped into
by kragil on Wed 18th Nov 2009 20:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Something I bumped into"
kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

Well it may be fog of war ...

But if you combine these credits with google-chrome-unstable_4.0.222.6-r28902_i386.deb that was on Googles servers for a short time and had a clock/date, battery/network indicator in the title bar and touch pad & network config on a Chrome OS tab in the options the fog starts to go away IMO.
It seems likely now that Chrome OS is LFs Moblin stack + a pimped Linux Chrome.
It will be interesting to see how Google does window management etc. There does not seem to be a dock or a taskbar.

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RE[2]: Something I bumped into
by zibalas on Thu 19th Nov 2009 07:46 in reply to "RE: Something I bumped into"
zibalas Member since:
2009-11-19

Noooooo not the X ;)

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ThomasFuhringer Member since:
2007-01-25

You are sooo right.

X may well be the main reason why this whole Linux-on-the-desktop thing has not happened after 20 years.

Those Unix based GUI projects that have made it anywhere happen to have skipped X Windows (e.g. Android, OS X).

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