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Windows Earlier this week, a senior National Security Agency official told US Congress that the NSA had worked on Microsoft's latest operating system, Windows 7. This spurred a flurry of rumours about the NSA building backdoors into Windows 7, but Microsoft has today categorically denied these claims.
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NSAKey?
by adam.gurno on Fri 20th Nov 2009 01:58 UTC
adam.gurno
Member since:
2009-11-20

No one remembers the NSAKey debacle?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY

They've been in Windows for years and years.

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RE: NSAKey?
by deathshadow on Fri 20th Nov 2009 06:01 in reply to "NSAKey?"
deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

No, we remember - It's just the people who understand it never took issue out of "oh noes, there's a 128 byte key in one DLL used for export licensing".

Only the tin-foil hat wearing fringe whacko conspiracy nutjob paranoids take this type of sensationalist reporting seriously. File this alongside your "911 truthers", Who really killed JFK, or how 911 and it's primary architect were predicted on our currency.

Wow, I had no idea that the Girl Scouts are responsible for the crop circle phenomenon.
Few people do, few even think to ask the question.

Edited 2009-11-20 06:02 UTC

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RE[2]: NSAKey?
by kaiwai on Fri 20th Nov 2009 15:37 in reply to "RE: NSAKey?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

No, we remember - It's just the people who understand it never took issue out of "oh noes, there's a 128 byte key in one DLL used for export licensing".

Only the tin-foil hat wearing fringe whacko conspiracy nutjob paranoids take this type of sensationalist reporting seriously. File this alongside your "911 truthers", Who really killed JFK, or how 911 and it's primary architect were predicted on our currency.

Wow, I had no idea that the Girl Scouts are responsible for the crop circle phenomenon.
Few people do, few even think to ask the question.


No need to worry, he's probably going to ring up Alex Jones over at Prisoner Planet claiming there to be a world wide conspiracy involving fluoride, vaccinations, NSA code in Windows and dumbing down of television as to enslave the nation! America unfortunately is filled with conspiracy nuts - the conspiracy theorist suck as individuals so they grasp at straws to explain why they suck.

Edited 2009-11-20 15:37 UTC

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RE[2]: NSAKey?
by boldingd on Fri 20th Nov 2009 16:57 in reply to "RE: NSAKey?"
boldingd Member since:
2009-02-19

While I don't necessarily personally believe it, it also does not sound implausable that the NSA would want a security back-door in Windows bad enough to at least approach Microsoft about it. Bear in mind, the US Fed'ral Gov'ment hasn't always been thrilled with its citizens' ability to keep secrets from it: various bills have arisen in Congress to try to make various types and strengths of encryption illegal, and even to enforce the inclusion of government-held master decryption keys in cryptography schemes. For that matter, bear in mind that large telcoms now are requried to have hardware making it possible for the government to intercept arbitrary calls, based on the same fundamental logic: "the Federal Government should have unrestricted access to information that it deems is of overriding importance" -- or, more precisely, "when the federal government decides that access to private information is of vital importance, it should not be technologically possible to prevent access to that information". (To the best of my knowledge, all those bills have been defeated -- but, at least, there is an interest, held by some in the federal government, in having these kinds of back-door keys put in).

I think the idea is at least more plausable than the other kinds of high-octane tinfoil hat that you list.

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RE[2]: NSAKey?
by josephsmith on Sat 21st Nov 2009 15:30 in reply to "RE: NSAKey?"
josephsmith Member since:
2009-07-27

"Only the tin-foil hat wearing fringe whacko conspiracy nutjob paranoids take this type of sensationalist reporting seriously."

Ah yes, spoken like a true ameriKan. How did you manage to string together such a long line of impressive words? I see you have been watching a fair amount of Fox News and CNN. Your ignorant comment comes as no surprise. Everyone knows the U.S. has one of the most ignorant, dumb, brain-washed and gullible populations in the world. They will believe anything as long as they hear it on their national news.

Some food for thought for brainwashed narrow-minded half-brained quasi-educated ameriKans like yourself: in mainstream political circles anyone who talks about conspiracies is ridiculed. This ugly habit is dishonest since even a little open-minded study reveals that there have been many conspiracies throughout human history, and that many of them had a great effect. Let's consider: the burning of Rome by emperor Nero - blamed on the Christians. The Reichstag fire in Nazi Germany by Hitler's people - blamed on the communists. Moscow apartment bombings in 1999 by the FSB (KGB) - blamed on Chechen rebels and used to justify Russia's invasion of Chechnya. And then 9/11...? You tell me. When stuff happens abroad everyone immediately suspects a conspiracy, but the U.S. is of course immune to conspiracies. The U.S. government always works in your best interest and would never harm or spy on its own citizens, right? And surely they would not sacrifice 3000 of their own people for oil, war and Middle East domination, right?

Idiot.

Edited 2009-11-21 15:47 UTC

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RE[2]: NSAKey?
by josephsmith on Sat 21st Nov 2009 16:08 in reply to "RE: NSAKey?"
josephsmith Member since:
2009-07-27

By the way, "deathshadow", how did you come up with such a fascinating and impressive original username? Maybe you should change it to "moronshadow"?

You were not even able to properly articulate your opinion with clear arguments, but instead resorted to lame, pathetic and juvenile insults against a group of people just because they do not accept the official version of events. You are no better than they are. Can't refute the message so you try to discredit and ridicule the messenger. This is the ultimate cowardice.

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RE: NSAKey?
by DrillSgt on Fri 20th Nov 2009 08:53 in reply to "NSAKey?"
DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

No one remembers the NSAKey debacle?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY

They've been in Windows for years and years.


Don't forget that it is in Linux as well..after all the NSA wrote SELinux...

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