Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 24th Nov 2009 00:02 UTC
Opera Software The Opera team has released version 10.10 of their feature-rich browser. This is the first Opera release to come with Opera Unite, which combines the web browser with a web server, so that users can share data directly between one another, without the need for a third party.
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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Tue 24th Nov 2009 00:36 UTC
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

"so that users can share data directly between one another, without the need for a third party."

Er, no. http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/16/thoughts-on-opera-unite/

Someone else will do this idea properly, and better and Opera will yet again be marginalised.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by mtzmtulivu on Tue 24th Nov 2009 01:01 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
mtzmtulivu Member since:
2006-11-14

somebody else, at some point in the future will do it better? ...cant you alleast see the bias in your writing .. you are sitting there hopping for somebody to out do, for them not to gain any market..

opera may not be as popular as you other browsers, but it is the only browser that has had the biggest impact on browser UI .. can you mention mention two ideas that opera brought to the table and were adopted by other browers and GUI applications? ..i will start with tabs followed by thumbnailed most visited browser pages ...can you name one more?

what has firefox contributed in this front? what has safari? IE lately?

arent you somewhere in Europe? Opera is pretty popular in some countries in Europe ..you sound like an American blogger who thinks if something isnt popular in silicon valley, it is not popular anywhere else in the world

can you lay down the hate for a little while? its getting boring

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Tue 24th Nov 2009 01:23 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

I’m British, and we take complaining to an art form.

Opera Unite has severe problems—the main two being that it goes through Opera proxies, and that there are terms and conditions that make it akin to the App Store—yet another walled garden. It’s a bad implementation, regardless of company.

Chrome is doing *way* more UI innovation than Opera is at the moment. Opera’s had its day, IMO.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Tuishimi on Tue 24th Nov 2009 07:20 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

you sound like an American blogger who thinks if something isnt popular in silicon valley, it is not popular anywhere else in the world

Ouch! Those close-minded Americans who think the world revolves around them are as bad as those snooty European elitists who know they are right and everyone else is wrong!

Jeez people, why can't we live together and accept that everyone is different, culturally, economically, religiously... etc. And some people are simply more opinionated than others, or voice their opinions more vehemently.

Anyway, I think it is great that Opera is still fighting and trying to stay in the game of innovation. It has to be hard with IE so entrenched, and Firefox running the flank.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by NeoX on Tue 24th Nov 2009 18:13 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
NeoX Member since:
2006-02-19

..you sound like an American blogger who thinks if something isnt popular in silicon valley, it is not popular anywhere else in the world


Hey, no need to generalize and make assumptions about all Americans. I am an american and I do not feel this way about stuff from silicon valley. On the contrary, I think innovation can come from anywhere on the planet. So don't judge people based on their home country. Wow, is mankind ever going to stop this kind of judging?

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by Googol on Tue 24th Nov 2009 09:56 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
Googol Member since:
2006-11-24

what drivel.

As if the evaluation of their marketing would have anything to do with what the software actually is and how it works in the end.

The first page of rage is also useless, a section on why it is not open-scource likewise. 95% of people run their browser on an OS that is non open to start with, and nobody cares whether IE is open. Get over it you little FOSS nazis, there is open and closed, just pick.

I didn't even know you can share data on Facebook, other than pictures, in that you 'publish' them there. Plus, of course 200 million FB users can be wrong, because neither is FB a very bright thing as such, nor are the users the brightest, splurting out drivel about their useless private lives nobody wants to know ;) So I guess its a draw, hm?

Also, I probably make use of only a fraction of the functionality of any software, but that does not mean the software is doomed only because the features are there anyway. What was that article about again? I couldn't figure.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by wumip on Tue 24th Nov 2009 18:15 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
wumip Member since:
2009-08-20

It's too bad that the "factoryjoe" blog post is utter nonsense. He actually admitted later that he got it all wrong (you don't need to log and and go through Opera's servers), and the only problem he was actually having was that Unite was so hyped.

So... FAIL. Try again.

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