Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Nov 2009 17:57 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu At the Ubuntu Developer Summit, which took place last week, it was announced that the next release of the Ubuntu Linux distribution, version 10.04, will no longer carry the GIMP in its default installation. This actually touches upon somethin I've been wanting to talk about, a problem that plagues both Linux and Mac OS X: Paint.NET is Windows-only.
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Pointless division
by fsck on Wed 25th Nov 2009 19:40 UTC
fsck
Member since:
2005-07-06

I wish people(distros) would get over this pointless qt/gtk division. Krita does this fine, it has for quite a while. We already have a lack of free software in some areas, restricting yourself to only gtk or qt software just limits you further, and what for? Slightly more visual integration? That can be solved in other ways.

Here's an idea, how about using the best for purpose and stop recreating the same software in different toolkits every 2 seconds. Work on the visual integration of free software as a whole rather than excluding software that uses other toolkits like it's the plague.

It's clear QT and GTK are both here to stay (at least for now) so let's stop the wasted effort recreating the same things yet again.

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RE: Pointless division
by pepo on Wed 25th Nov 2009 19:54 in reply to "Pointless division"
pepo Member since:
2009-06-19

If KOffice would be ready for general use, we could kill OpenOffice, gain some 500 MB free CD space, and create a single CD with both GNOME and KDE workspaces.

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RE: Pointless division
by lemur2 on Wed 25th Nov 2009 22:36 in reply to "Pointless division"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I wish people(distros) would get over this pointless qt/gtk division. Krita does this fine, it has for quite a while. We already have a lack of free software in some areas, restricting yourself to only gtk or qt software just limits you further, and what for? Slightly more visual integration? That can be solved in other ways. Here's an idea, how about using the best for purpose and stop recreating the same software in different toolkits every 2 seconds. Work on the visual integration of free software as a whole rather than excluding software that uses other toolkits like it's the plague. It's clear QT and GTK are both here to stay (at least for now) so let's stop the wasted effort recreating the same things yet again.


Precisely.

BTW, recent KDE desktops support GTK+ and Qt (but not Mono) applications with the same look (and often even the same feel, because many GTK+ applications can use the native KDE file picker dialog boxes etc).

The easiest way to have a mix of GTK+ and Qt applications which look integrated on the same desktop, without bloat or having a penalty of requiring additional dependencies each time you install more applications, is to start with a recent KDE4 desktop in the first place (and subsequently avoid Mono applications).

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RE[2]: Pointless division
by the_trapper on Thu 26th Nov 2009 16:32 in reply to "RE: Pointless division"
the_trapper Member since:
2005-07-07

BTW, recent KDE desktops support GTK+ and Qt (but not Mono) applications with the same look (and often even the same feel, because many GTK+ applications can use the native KDE file picker dialog boxes etc).


What are you talking about? Mono uses Gtk+ as its preferred GUI toolkit, unless you meant WinForms which is something else entirely. So actually yes, Mono applications get along just fine with every other Gnome application. But you were just trolling because GOD FORBID somebody use a Mono app, right lemur2?

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