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Apple Apple is usually quite the secretive company, revealing little of itself or its practices. With the App Store under heavy criticism, the company felt it needed to break the silence, and as such, Apple's senior vice-president for worldwide product marketing, Phil Schiller defended the company's App Store policies.
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RE[6]: The Apple Way
by tupp on Fri 27th Nov 2009 07:29 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: The Apple Way"
tupp
Member since:
2006-11-12

Not to say that the iPhone design is totally an Apple invention, but the LG Prada comparison is quite weak.

Sorry, but we can't gloss over this statement.

How is the design of the the LG Prada "quite weak" in comparison to the Iphone?

The Prada won Red Dot "Best of the Best" Award in 2007 as did the Iphone later in 2008, but the Prada went on to win the International Forum Design product design award for 2007. The Prada also won a lot of the same/similar design awards that the Iphone won from computer/mobile-phone publishers.

Certainly, design awards are not an objective gauge of design quality -- such contests are often run/judged by pointy-head snobs who value stylishness over function -- but what other Design guage do we have to compare the Prada to the Iphone?

Please explain.


Even if the Prada phone was released earlier, I don't really think Apple had the time to make any adjustments to the design. LG Prada was announced Dec 12, '06 and the iPhone Jan 9, '07.

Well, first of all, there is no "even if" about it -- the Prada was being sold months before the Iphone was being sold. As I recall, the Prada started selling in January of 2007. When did the Iphone first start selling?...

Secondly, the Prada was showcased earlier than the announcement you mentioned, at the iF Design Awards in September 2006. Hence, it won the IF product design award for 2007 (which was announced in 2006: http://mobile.engadget.com/2006/12/15/the-lg-ke850-touchable-chocol... ).

I do not claim that Apple stole the LG/Prada design (although the LG CEO made that claim). However, there really is not that much to to the design of flat, compact, touchscreen phones other than a screen and a bezel, so they all pretty much look the same -- obvious and generic.

In light of this fact and given that others were winning awards on the same generic design prior to Apple, it seems rather silly for Apple fans to proclaim that the Iphone is a triumph of unique and innovative enclosure design.

Edited 2009-11-27 07:30 UTC

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RE[7]: The Apple Way
by mkone on Fri 27th Nov 2009 09:34 in reply to "RE[6]: The Apple Way"
mkone Member since:
2006-03-14

"Not to say that the iPhone design is totally an Apple invention, but the LG Prada comparison is quite weak.

Sorry, but we can't gloss over this statement.

How is the design of the the LG Prada "quite weak" in comparison to the Iphone?
"

I think its the comparison that is weak, not the design of the Prada phone.

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RE[8]: The Apple Way
by tupp on Fri 27th Nov 2009 12:09 in reply to "RE[7]: The Apple Way"
tupp Member since:
2006-11-12

I think its the comparison that is weak, not the design of the Prada phone.

The comparison is weak, because the Prada won more design awards than the Iphone, and because it has a superior design than the Iphone?

Exactly how is the comparison weak?

Specifics -- not unsupported, vague notions!

Edited 2009-11-27 12:16 UTC

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RE[7]: The Apple Way
by erak on Sat 28th Nov 2009 00:41 in reply to "RE[6]: The Apple Way"
erak Member since:
2006-09-24


How is the design of the the LG Prada "quite weak" in comparison to the Iphone?
[...]
Please explain.


Can't really understand how you could interpret it like that. I said that the comparison was weak, not the design.


Well, first of all, there is no "even if" about it -- the Prada was being sold months before the Iphone was being sold. As I recall, the Prada started selling in January of 2007. When did the Iphone first start selling?...


What are you talking about? I know when they started selling, what has the selling date has to do with anything? The topic was stealing design, rehash or whatever.And when it comes to R&D, it would be impossible for Apple the steal the design in that amount of time. This is no cheap chinese knock off with hardware from the 90s.


I do not claim that Apple stole the LG/Prada design (although the LG CEO made that claim).


No, but I felt that you said it in way that you thought it was possible for Apple to get inspiration from the LG Prada, and it was not.


However, there really is not that much to to the design of flat, compact, touchscreen phones other than a screen and a bezel, so they all pretty much look the same -- obvious and generic.

In light of this fact and given that others were winning awards on the same generic design prior to Apple, it seems rather silly for Apple fans to proclaim that the Iphone is a triumph of unique and innovative enclosure design.

I agree, it's quite generic.

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