Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Nov 2009 20:45 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Now this is an interesting case. Late last week news got out that Apple is refusing to repair machines still under AppleCare from customers who smoke, citing health risks from second-hand smoke. Wait, what?
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RE[2]: Wrong as can be!
by Bruno the Arrogant on Sat 28th Nov 2009 12:51 UTC in reply to "RE: Wrong as can be!"
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Should tobacco be highly taxed? Yes, because people who smoke cost more to society.

Actually, they don't. Studies have shown that they actually save society by dying younger and therefore saving society in health care costs in old age, social security, nursing home costs, etc. A 1997 study in The New England Journal of Medicine found that total medical spending actually would go up if everyone stopped smoking.

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RE[3]: Wrong as can be!
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 28th Nov 2009 13:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Wrong as can be!"
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You can probably find studies that go either way.

I just find it disgusting how smokers are treated as misfits in society, not worth of medical care. Smoker or not - and smoking is retarded, let me be clear - it does not make you any less of a human, and as such, you have the right to the exact same medical care or support as anyone else.

Car owners and drivers are doing a lot more damage to other human beings than smokers ever did, yet I don't see people claiming we should no longer service or treat car owners.

It's all hypocrisy. Like I said: easy scoring material for politicians - nothing more.

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RE[4]: Wrong as can be!
by hashnet on Sun 29th Nov 2009 01:36 in reply to "RE[3]: Wrong as can be!"
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I don't care if people destroy their health by smoking.
What bothers me is the throat pains and asthma bouts I experience when near lit cigarettes.
Years ago I gave up going to jazz clubs because of this.
I remember of an employer who told me: "Freedom is, you let us smoke, and we let you cough".
The situation is getting better, though, as smoking is increasingly banned in public places.
I'd hate to have to handle smoke-impregnated material as part of my job.
Now the Apple case is certainly over the top, but it may be a way to swing the pendulum the other way.

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