Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 3rd Dec 2009 20:21 UTC, submitted by diegocg
Linux Linux 2.6.32 has been released. New features include virtualization memory de-duplicacion, a rewrite of the writeback code which provides noticeable performance speedups, many important Btrfs improvements and speedups, ATI R600/R700 3D and KMS support and other graphic improvements, a CFQ low latency mode, tracing improvements including a "perf timechart" tool that tries to be a better bootchart, soft limits in the memory controller, support for the S+Core architecture, support for Intel Moorestown and many other improvements and new drivers. You can also read the full changelog.
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RE[6]: Kinda sad
by sbergman27 on Fri 4th Dec 2009 03:52 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Kinda sad"
sbergman27
Member since:
2005-07-24

Nope. You are just lying again. Your claim was simply that Fedora was the only distribution officially advertising itself as bleeding edge


Uhuh. I made a statement, and you saw that your could turn the discussion into this blind alley where we could argue whether the Fedora project officially uses the word "bleeding" in their marketing materials. And you jumped on it. I'm not falling for it. I won't accuse you of lying on that point. But there is certainly an element of deception in that.

Is Fedora popularly known as being "bleeding edge"? Yes, it is. Deny it, Rahul.

Now to come to subject matter, Fedora is hardly the only distribution to provide kernel revisions as updates.

Fedora jumps you from 2.6.23 to 2.6.24 to 2.6.25 to 2.6.26, etc. all in the same, supposedly stable, release. Not many distros do that. They stick with one kernel version. Of the major distros, in fact, Fedora is pretty much the only distro with that cavalier attitude. So you and lemur can just cease and desist with the "everyone does that" mantra. Because it is not true. Although I should make clear that I realize that Fedora has its reasons for doing so.

Fedora is somewhat reckless. And that's perfectly OK, as long as you admit it and users go in well informed. Fedora can be a lot of fun if you don't have a lot of responsibility riding on it. I'd still be using it at home if I could afford to be so happy go lucky.

What I so disapprove of in you lately, Rahul, is that you are not willing to be honest about what Fedora is. Because there is nothing particularly wrong with what Fedora is. Fedora is good to the extent that its advocates are honest. Fedora does a good job of getting new stuff ready for the greater Linux distro community at large.

And my number one complaint about Fedora is not that it is bleeding edge, cutting edge, leading edge, whatever your marketing sensibilities are comfortable with, Rahul... but that it's reps seem to want to deny that it is what it is when it is convenient for them to do so, and then show up to accept any credit when credit is being handed out.

Fedora is, in general, less reliable than other distros. Which is fine, considering what Fedora's goals are. (And being Red Hat's perpetual beta is one goal that Fedora can never get completely away from.) You can't have cutting edge features and cutting edge reliability both at the same time.

So all I ask is that Fedora reps be honest about what Fedora is.

And in the interim, I will continue to be honest about what Fedora is.

Edited 2009-12-04 03:55 UTC

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RE[7]: Kinda sad
by Rahul on Fri 4th Dec 2009 04:07 in reply to "RE[6]: Kinda sad"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

No. You have become a Ubuntu fanboy trolling about Fedora and continuously lying about it. You are dishonest person and I will not engage you in pointless discussions. Just don't make false claims about what I said and I don't have to bother calling you out on it.

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RE[8]: Kinda sad
by sbergman27 on Fri 4th Dec 2009 04:33 in reply to "RE[7]: Kinda sad"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

No. You have become a Ubuntu fanboy trolling about Fedora and continuously lying about it.

No. The Ubuntu guys have done a very good job with Ubuntu. Ubuntu has been a success for Linux in its particular playing position.

The Fedora guys have done a very good job with Fedora. Fedora has been a success for Linux in its particular playing position.

Where we seem to disagree is that Ubuntu and Fedora have different playing positions. And would you really want it any other way?

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RE[7]: Kinda sad
by fsck on Sat 5th Dec 2009 14:41 in reply to "RE[6]: Kinda sad"
fsck Member since:
2005-07-06

Uhuh. I made a statement, and you saw that your could turn the discussion into this blind alley where we could argue whether the Fedora project officially uses the word "bleeding" in their marketing materials. And you jumped on it. I'm not falling for it. I won't accuse you of lying on that point. But there is certainly an element of deception in that.

Is Fedora popularly known as being "bleeding edge"? Yes, it is. Deny it, Rahul.

The statement claimed it was bleeding edge that was the aim of the releases made by the project (it is not) when your statement was shown to be BS you changed the arguement into what the "perception" of it is. You can play word games if you like but no one is buying it.

....... skipping masses of opinion........

And my number one complaint about Fedora is not that it is bleeding edge, cutting edge, leading edge, whatever your marketing sensibilities are comfortable with

Twist away, if you change your language enough times maybe one version will be seen as accurate.

Fedora is, in general, less reliable than other distros. Which is fine, considering what Fedora's goals are. (And being Red Hat's perpetual beta is one goal that Fedora can never get completely away from.) You can't have cutting edge features and cutting edge reliability both at the same time.

That must be why more ubuntu updates have caused the system to become unbootable for all users - in less releases and less kernel updates at that. Damn logic and factual data, that's fine go on, keep ignoring reality.

So all I ask is that Fedora reps be honest about what Fedora is.

And in the interim, I will continue to be honest about what Fedora is.

I would reccomend not changing your language every time your arguement is shown to be wrong next time as part of this "honesty".

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