Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 4th Dec 2009 19:59 UTC
Apple "Apple has added new build-to-order options for some of its Mac Pro and Xserve models. Specifically, a 3.33GHz 3500-series Xeon processor is now an option for the lower-end quad-core Mac Pro. Also, Apple now offers a 2TB drive option for both Mac Pros and Xserves."
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RE: No graphics?
by elmimmo on Sat 5th Dec 2009 04:46 UTC in reply to "No graphics?"
elmimmo
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2005-09-17

Problem with graphic cards in Mac Pro's is not so much what you are offered when you get the machine, but what you are not offered after that.

Depending on what your job is about, shedding €300 two years after getting the machine could virtually double you productivity (for instance, if it is 3D of video compositing, by halving your render times), but expandability in graphics is NOT a feature of Apple towers due to lack of compatible cards out there. With the promises of OpenCL (if they are delivered) it is even a sadder situation.

When Apple transitioned to EFI I expected that the need for cards with custom firmwares for Macs would come to an end (since I also expected PCs to transition to EFI, it coming from Intel), and that PC and Mac cards would then become one same hardware model (drivers issue aside).

Unfortunately, the situation has not changed one bit and Mac Pro's are as limited on their graphics expandability as iMacs are, most of the times.

Edited 2009-12-05 04:52 UTC

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RE[2]: No graphics?
by moondevil on Sat 5th Dec 2009 09:24 in reply to "RE: No graphics?"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Which just shows that Mac are not the type of machine you want to buy, if your type of work depends on 3D and high performance graphics manipulation.

For me it was the main reason I ended up buying a PC last month.

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RE[3]: No graphics?
by elmimmo on Sat 5th Dec 2009 09:40 in reply to "RE[2]: No graphics?"
elmimmo Member since:
2005-09-17

Depends, video editing is almost exclusively Mac centric when at individual level, and hence lots of video compositing is done there too, wether it being the most upgradable hardware or not. Lots of motion graphics is then made on the Mac using Cinema4D for 3D (probably not so much because it excels over anything, but because it is the only 3D app available to Mac users with enough render quality and feature set).

All video editing/compositing apps (Final Cut, After Effects, Nuke, Motion, etc.) on the Mac use the graphics card for one thing or the other. Try using some of the apps in the Magic Bullets suite without an decent graphics card… And like I said, it is Apple who is boasting about OpenCL.

So it is not like there is no software or industry already existing and revolving around Macs that would benefit tremendously of an available market of easy to upgrade graphics cards.

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