Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 4th Dec 2009 19:59 UTC
Apple "Apple has added new build-to-order options for some of its Mac Pro and Xserve models. Specifically, a 3.33GHz 3500-series Xeon processor is now an option for the lower-end quad-core Mac Pro. Also, Apple now offers a 2TB drive option for both Mac Pros and Xserves."
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RE[2]: I really do not get it
by alcibiades on Mon 7th Dec 2009 07:15 UTC in reply to "RE: I really do not get it"
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Thanks for an objective response. Seems to be sourced from Zoostorm. The processor is a 6300 2.8Ghz and there is 4G memory.

From a review: Inside, it is very well laid out and feels extremely well built. There are 3 free hard drive bays, and space for another CD/DVD drive. The installed hard disk is a Hitachi Deskstar 500gb with about 485gb usable space. The power supply is rated at 255W and runs virtually silent. The case fan and CPU fan are noiser, but not obtrusive. The CPU is cooled by a non-standard Akansa fan and heatsink, and runs very cool (around 30 degress C)....Motherboard is a Foxconn G31 and the bios is Phoenix.

Dunno, what's wrong with it?

I had estimated several times the price for a Mac, because looking at the Mini series, to match the processor speed and memory and disk capacity, you had to go to better than the entry level model. But maybe you don't need to match it, the entry Mini spec, though lower, would probably be adequate.

We will put Debian or maybe Mandriva One on it, but legitimate copies of XP are selling for around UK 35 now.

I thought about this, it was not just a silly instant prejudiced judgment, and I can't see recommending anyone buy the Mini over this. To match the spec more or less really is going to cost several times the price, and for what? If you only spend double, you are getting a machine with much lower performance. Why exactly do that? The great advantage of the mini is that it takes up less space and is highly portable. This is not really an advantage in the office of a modest charity. To spend more to get something lower spec, less expandable, and more stealable? Why?

I should write up the other choices we are currently looking at, and people can see how it is in the real world when someone asks you whether they should consider a Mac for their application.

The point about support is legitimate, there is no comparable calling point for this system to the ability to call Apple. But this is coming at what is, for these users, a fairly high price. These are people who seriously shop to save pennies. Linux has its costs too, if an end user is going to be heavily into devices, cameras, scanners, audio, its hard to see leaving them alone with Debian. But XP should be fine.

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