Storing Your Data on the Internet: Ignorant and Silly
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th Dec 2009 23:28 UTC
Editorial Now that everything is moving to the cloud internet, you might think that data loss is a thing of the past. Sadly, as the past few months have taught us, this actually isn't true; we first had the Microsoft/Danger disaster, and now we have Palm and Sprint facing a class-action lawsuit over data loss for webOS phones. All this raises the question: how safe is it to store your precious data on the internet, and do you really trust the internet?
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RE[2]: Behind the brick?
by sbenitezb on Thu 10th Dec 2009 17:13 UTC in reply to "RE: Behind the brick?"
sbenitezb
Member since:
2005-07-22

Well, if that doesn't win the award for 'ridiculous analogy of the decade', there must be some ridiculous analogies out there!


I find it a valid analogy.

How would Thom get wages without a bank? How would he pay his direct debits?


You don't need the bank to store the money for you. You can get your money at any time and safely store it behind a brick.

People in this day and age are practically _required_ to use a bank. Cloud storage is an option.


Required to have a bank account to get your money, but you can run away with your money at any time if you want, with a lot of risk.
And cloud storage, if you think a little bit, is just an extension to what we have already being using for ages. If you send documents in a mail, they are available to both your mail provider and your destinatary mail provider. Unless you encrypt all your traffic, you have been giving away your data to the public since you clicked the send mail button.

On this topic-- What about Dropbox and similar? You always keep a local copy as well as the server copy so if either dies, you have your data back. And on the issue of privacy, there's nothing to stop you from using AXCrypt or similar to encrypt on a file level.


I use it, not regularly, but when needed. I don't implicitly trust it, but I don't really have any sensitive information.

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RE[3]: Behind the brick?
by strcpy on Thu 10th Dec 2009 17:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Behind the brick?"
strcpy Member since:
2009-05-20


And cloud storage, if you think a little bit, is just an extension to what we have already being using for ages. If you send documents in a mail, they are available to both your mail provider and your destinatary mail provider. Unless you encrypt all your traffic, you have been giving away your data to the public since you clicked the send mail button.


This is ridiculous. Simply the amount of "personal" (in the lack of a better word) data transferred in the intertubs is overwhelmingly bigger than anything transferred or stored in conventional terms.

And by the way, in civilized countries normal letters are not open to your mail provider.

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RE[4]: Behind the brick?
by sbenitezb on Thu 10th Dec 2009 17:36 in reply to "RE[3]: Behind the brick?"
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

This is ridiculous. Simply the amount of "personal" (in the lack of a better word) data transferred in the intertubs is overwhelmingly bigger than anything transferred or stored in conventional terms.


So? Google doesn't index your mails to make a profile of you? I'm sick of people here crying out loud about privacy when none of them use Tor and move in the interwebs using their own name, their real IP, and send mails with their documents and share important information without even thinking, don't encrypt their MSN chats, etcetera. I recognise the importance about privacy, but privacy doesn't come from the hands of corporations and laws.

And by the way, in civilized countries normal letters are not open to your mail provider.


Ohh, I see. I used the word "mail". I should have used the word "email" instead. I'm sorry, I was still talking, ehm sorry, writing about electronic mail and attached documents, ehm sorry, bits of information.

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RE[3]: Behind the brick?
by google_ninja on Mon 14th Dec 2009 13:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Behind the brick?"
google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

Not only that, but even a cheap data center probably is about a billion times safer then any other way you could personally store data. Unless you have your data on raid-10 machines in a climate controlled room with redundant power and security guards.

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